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Re: [Amps] 8874/3cx400a7

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Subject: Re: [Amps] 8874/3cx400a7
From: Paul Decker <kg7hf@comcast.net>
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 13:00:48 +0000 (UTC)
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Interestingly enough, the 3cx800A7 and 3cpx800A7 sheets don't have that 
paragraph.  I suspect because they are only spec'ed to 350 Mhz. On the other 
hand, the 3cx800U7 has a similar paragraph showing reduced heater voltages.  It 
goes even further stating that the heater voltage should only be reduced when 
rf drive is applied and it should be returned back to normal when rf drive is 
removed. 



quote: 

Heater voltage should be returned to 13.5 volts simultaneously with the removal 
of rf drive.  In low duty factor applications such as CW telegraphy and voice 
SSB, heater voltage shouldbe maintained at 13.5 volts. 

:end quote 



So maybe I shouldn't worry about it at all.  Most of my operating is CW and SSB 
with the occasional FM and WSJT.  I'm considering putting in a switch mechanism 
to switch between class AB and class C for FM and WSJT. 



Paul. 




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Paul Decker" <kg7hf@comcast.net> 
To: amps@contesting.com 
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 8:20:41 AM 
Subject: 8874/3cx400a7 






A question I'm sure the experienced amp builders can answer.  I was reading 
through the Eimac 8874 datasheet last night and found this paragraph: 



quote: 

HEATER/CATHODE OPERATION - The rated heater voltage for the 8873, 8874, and 
8875 is 6.3 volts, as measured at the base of the tube, and variations should 
be restriced to plus or minus 0.3 volt for long life and consistent 
performance.  At frequencies above approximately 300 MHz it may be necessary to 
reduce heater voltage to compensate for rf transit-time heating of the cathode 
after dynamic operation of the tube has started.  The back heating is a 
function of frequency, grid current, grid-bias, anode current, duty cycle, and 
circuit design and adjustment.  The following heater operating voltages are 
recommended: 



Frequency (MHz)     Heater Voltage 

300 or lower             6.3 

301 to 400                6.0 

401 to 500                5.7 

:end quote 



In my new 70cm amp, my heater voltage is set to 6.3 volts.  Reading this, there 
are many variables to take into consideration of which there is no "formula" to 
figure out the ideal heater voltage.  Should I simply reduce my heater voltage 
to 5.7 volts?  What effect would this have on the amplifier performance?  Does 
anyone have experience with lowering the heater voltage in this type of 
situation? 



Thanks, 

Paul 

kg7hf 














 
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