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Subject: Re: [Amps] Amps Digest, Vol 114, Issue 10
From: K3vw@aol.com
Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2012 18:42:28 -0400 (EDT)
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On the output of a Drake L-4B, do the math. Key down plate volts into  the 
key down plate current, times 60 to 65% efficiency, equals output in watts.  
As stock, it will not even be close to legal limit !! Weak power supply.
 
 
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Today's Topics:

1. ANOTHER L4B EBAY  (same seller) (Gudguyham@aol.com)
2. Re: ANOTHER L4B EBAY  (same seller) (Steve Katz)
3. Re: ANOTHER L4B EBAY (same  seller) (Mike Baker)
4. Re: ANOTHER L4B EBAY (same seller)  (Roger (K8RI))
5. Re: ANOTHER L4B EBAY (same seller)  (Gudguyham@aol.com)
6. Re: ANOTHER L4B EBAY (same seller)  (Gudguyham@aol.com)
7. Re: ANOTHER L4B EBAY (same seller)  (Rich)
8. Re: ANOTHER L4B EBAY (same seller) (Vic  K2VCO)


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Message:  1
Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 17:56:20 -0400 (EDT)
From:  Gudguyham@aol.com
Subject: [Amps] ANOTHER L4B EBAY (same seller)
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Ok it gets better........Here is another L4B from  the same seller as the  
last one.  Get ready for well over 2K  dollars?   _DRAKE  L-4B HF AMPLIFIER 
BRAND NEW UNUSED |  eBay_  
(http://www.ebay.com/itm/DRAKE-L-4B-HF-AMPLIFIER-BRAND-NEW-UNUSED-/140769208
487?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20c67fa8a7)   

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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 7 Jun  2012 15:04:37 -0700
From: "Steve Katz" <stevek@jmr.com>
Subject:  Re: [Amps] ANOTHER L4B EBAY (same seller)
To:  <Gudguyham@aol.com>,     <amps@contesting.com>
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At least it's "1500W  output." :-)

WB2WIK

-----Original Message-----
From:  amps-bounces@contesting.com [mailto:amps-bounces@contesting.com]
On Behalf  Of Gudguyham@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 2:56 PM
To:  amps@contesting.com
Subject: [Amps] ANOTHER L4B EBAY (same  seller)

Ok it gets better........Here is another L4B from the same  seller as the

last one.  Get ready for well over 2K  dollars?   _DRAKE  L-4B HF
AMPLIFIER 
BRAND NEW UNUSED |  eBay_  
(http://www.ebay.com/itm/DRAKE-L-4B-HF-AMPLIFIER-BRAND-NEW-UNUSED-/14076
9208487?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20c67fa8a7)   
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Message:  3
Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 22:18:40 -0700
From: "Mike Baker"  <k7dd@cox.net>
Subject: Re: [Amps] ANOTHER L4B EBAY (same  seller)
To: <Gudguyham@aol.com>,     <amps@contesting.com>
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This should be interesting  to watch.

Wanna bet this one pushes the 3K mark pretty hard?  As  weird as that may
seem to me, it just might happen.

Mike Baker   K7DD



-----Original Message-----
From:  amps-bounces@contesting.com [mailto:amps-bounces@contesting.com] On
Behalf  Of Gudguyham@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 2:56 PM
To:  amps@contesting.com
Subject: [Amps] ANOTHER L4B EBAY (same  seller)

Ok it gets better........Here is another L4B from the same  seller as the  
last one.  Get ready for well over 2K  dollars?   _DRAKE  L-4B HF AMPLIFIER 
BRAND NEW UNUSED |  eBay_  
(http://www.ebay.com/itm/DRAKE-L-4B-HF-AMPLIFIER-BRAND-NEW-UNUSED-/140769208
487?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20c67fa8a7)   
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Message:  4
Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2012 01:43:47 -0400
From: "Roger (K8RI)"  <k8ri@rogerhalstead.com>
Subject: Re: [Amps] ANOTHER L4B EBAY (same  seller)
To: amps@contesting.com
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On 6/8/2012 1:18 AM, Mike Baker  wrote:
> This should be interesting to watch.
>
> Wanna bet  this one pushes the 3K mark pretty hard?  As weird as that may
>  seem to me, it just might happen.

Who do you think winds those  auctions?  Does and L4B actually put our 
1500 watts?
Now if it  were a heatkit, unassembeled, in the original box, it would be 
a true  collectors piece.
The Viking Ranger I the ARRL put together a few years  back was worth a 
whole lot more before they made the first solder  joint.  It not only was 
rare, it was unique.

But what is there  to show an L4B is brand new, never used that will make 
it stand out from  other pristine L4Bs?
A normal collector would want a piece that screams "I  am Unique", I am 
worth a fortune to those who can see I'm  different!
This may be a never used amp, but it is not "brand new". At best  it is 
NOS that is likely to need new caps at a minimum before it can be  used.
An amp is worth what ever the market will stand and he'll probably  get 
it, but what is so special about this amp that would make it a genuine  
collectors piece?

73

Roger (K8RI)

>
> Mike  Baker  K7DD
>
>
>
> -----Original  Message-----
> From: amps-bounces@contesting.com  [mailto:amps-bounces@contesting.com] On
> Behalf Of  Gudguyham@aol.com
> Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 2:56 PM
> To:  amps@contesting.com
> Subject: [Amps] ANOTHER L4B EBAY (same  seller)
>
> Ok it gets better........Here is another L4B from the  same seller as the
> last one.  Get ready for well over 2K  dollars?   _DRAKE  L-4B HF 
AMPLIFIER
> BRAND NEW UNUSED |  eBay_
>  
(http://www.ebay.com/itm/DRAKE-L-4B-HF-AMPLIFIER-BRAND-NEW-UNUSED-/140769208
>  487?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20c67fa8a7)
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Message:  5
Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2012 02:25:02 -0400 (EDT)
From:  Gudguyham@aol.com
Subject: Re: [Amps] ANOTHER L4B EBAY (same seller)
To:  k8ri@rogerhalstead.com, amps@contesting.com
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Funny thing is, I do not see any mention of the  power supply


In a message dated 6/8/2012 1:44:06 A.M. Eastern  Daylight Time,  
k8ri@rogerhalstead.com writes:

On   6/8/2012 1:18 AM, Mike Baker wrote:
> This should be interesting  to  watch.
>
> Wanna bet this one pushes the 3K mark  pretty  hard?  As weird as that may
> seem to me, it just  might  happen.

Who do you think winds those auctions?  Does  and L4B  actually put our 
1500 watts?
Now if it were a heatkit,  unassembeled, in  the original box, it would be 
a true collectors  piece.
The Viking  Ranger I the ARRL put together a few years back was  worth a 
whole lot more  before they made the first solder  joint.  It not only was 
rare, it  was unique.

But what is  there to show an L4B is brand new, never used  that will make 
it  stand out from other pristine L4Bs?
A normal  collector would want a  piece that screams "I am Unique", I am 
worth a  fortune to those who  can see I'm different!
This may be a never used amp,  but it is not  "brand new". At best it is 
NOS that is likely to need new  caps at a  minimum before it can be used.
An amp is worth what ever the  market  will stand and he'll probably get 
it, but what is so special about   this amp that would make it a genuine 
collectors   piece?

73

Roger (K8RI)

>
> Mike  Baker   K7DD
>
>
>
> -----Original  Message-----
> From:  amps-bounces@contesting.com  [mailto:amps-bounces@contesting.com] 
On
>  Behalf Of  Gudguyham@aol.com
> Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 2:56  PM
>  To: amps@contesting.com
> Subject: [Amps] ANOTHER L4B EBAY  (same  seller)
>
> Ok it gets better........Here is another L4B   from the same seller as the
> last one.  Get ready for well over  2K  dollars?   _DRAKE  L-4B HF 
AMPLIFIER
> BRAND  NEW UNUSED |  eBay_
>   
(http://www.ebay.com/itm/DRAKE-L-4B-HF-AMPLIFIER-BRAND-NEW-UNUSED-/140769208
>   487?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20c67fa8a7)
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Message:  6
Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2012 02:28:46 -0400 (EDT)
From:  Gudguyham@aol.com
Subject: Re: [Amps] ANOTHER L4B EBAY (same seller)
To:  Gudguyham@aol.com, k8ri@rogerhalstead.com, amps@contesting.com
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Oh yes, he does mention it with no plug, but no  photo of the box.


In a message dated 6/8/2012 2:25:19 A.M. Eastern  Daylight Time,  
Gudguyham@aol.com writes:

dated   


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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 08  Jun 2012 09:18:29 -0500
From: Rich <w9cin@comcast.net>
Subject:  Re: [Amps] ANOTHER L4B EBAY (same seller)
To:  amps@contesting.com
Message-ID:  <4FD209B5.6010100@comcast.net>
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If one look's close at the power  supply
there is dust on it and a scratch
if he just took it out of the  box how did the dust and scratch get there?
"Rich"




On  6/8/2012 1:28 AM, Gudguyham@aol.com wrote:
> Oh yes, he does mention it  with no plug, but no photo of the box.
>
>
> In a message  dated 6/8/2012 2:25:19 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> Gudguyham@aol.com  writes:
>
> dated
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Message:  8
Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2012 07:52:16 -0700
From: Vic K2VCO  <k2vco.vic@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Amps] ANOTHER L4B EBAY (same  seller)
To: amps@contesting.com
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As a working amplifier, the L4B is  nicely constructed, but so are a number 
of others. And 
it doesn't have 160  meters, pretty important these days.

I personally don't get the  'collector mentality' -- the desire to own 
something rare or 
unique. I  admit to having a few old radios and keys myself, but they 
aren't rare or  
valuable; I just like them. But unless a person is buying these items with  
the intent to 
sell them for more in the future, it is essentially  irrational.

'Irrational' means it doesn't make sense. So we are not  going to 
understand this!

On 6/7/2012 10:43 PM, Roger (K8RI)  wrote:
> On 6/8/2012 1:18 AM, Mike Baker wrote:
>> This should  be interesting to watch.
>>
>> Wanna bet this one pushes the  3K mark pretty hard?  As weird as that may
>> seem to me, it  just might happen.
>
> Who do you think winds those  auctions?  Does and L4B actually put our
> 1500 watts?
> Now  if it were a heatkit, unassembeled, in the original box, it would be
> a  true collectors piece.
> The Viking Ranger I the ARRL put together a few  years back was worth a
> whole lot more before they made the first  solder joint.  It not only was
> rare, it was  unique.
>
> But what is there to show an L4B is brand new, never  used that will make
> it stand out from other pristine L4Bs?
> A  normal collector would want a piece that screams "I am Unique", I am
>  worth a fortune to those who can see I'm different!
> This may be a  never used amp, but it is not "brand new". At best it is
> NOS that is  likely to need new caps at a minimum before it can be used.
> An amp is  worth what ever the market will stand and he'll probably get
> it, but  what is so special about this amp that would make it a genuine
>  collectors piece?
>
> 73
>
> Roger  (K8RI)
>
>>
>> Mike Baker   K7DD
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original  Message-----
>> From: amps-bounces@contesting.com  [mailto:amps-bounces@contesting.com] 
On
>> Behalf Of  Gudguyham@aol.com
>> Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 2:56  PM
>> To: amps@contesting.com
>> Subject: [Amps] ANOTHER L4B  EBAY (same seller)
>>
>> Ok it gets better........Here is  another L4B from the same seller as the
>> last one.  Get ready  for well over 2K dollars?   _DRAKE  L-4B HF  
AMPLIFIER
>> BRAND NEW UNUSED | eBay_
>>  
(http://www.ebay.com/itm/DRAKE-L-4B-HF-AMPLIFIER-BRAND-NEW-UNUSED-/140769208
>>  487?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20c67fa8a7)
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-- 
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