On the output of a Drake L-4B, do the math. Key down plate volts into the
key down plate current, times 60 to 65% efficiency, equals output in watts.
As stock, it will not even be close to legal limit !! Weak power supply.
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1. ANOTHER L4B EBAY (same seller) (Gudguyham@aol.com)
2. Re: ANOTHER L4B EBAY (same seller) (Steve Katz)
3. Re: ANOTHER L4B EBAY (same seller) (Mike Baker)
4. Re: ANOTHER L4B EBAY (same seller) (Roger (K8RI))
5. Re: ANOTHER L4B EBAY (same seller) (Gudguyham@aol.com)
6. Re: ANOTHER L4B EBAY (same seller) (Gudguyham@aol.com)
7. Re: ANOTHER L4B EBAY (same seller) (Rich)
8. Re: ANOTHER L4B EBAY (same seller) (Vic K2VCO)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 17:56:20 -0400 (EDT)
From: Gudguyham@aol.com
Subject: [Amps] ANOTHER L4B EBAY (same seller)
To: amps@contesting.com
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Ok it gets better........Here is another L4B from the same seller as the
last one. Get ready for well over 2K dollars? _DRAKE L-4B HF AMPLIFIER
BRAND NEW UNUSED | eBay_
(http://www.ebay.com/itm/DRAKE-L-4B-HF-AMPLIFIER-BRAND-NEW-UNUSED-/140769208
487?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20c67fa8a7)
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 15:04:37 -0700
From: "Steve Katz" <stevek@jmr.com>
Subject: Re: [Amps] ANOTHER L4B EBAY (same seller)
To: <Gudguyham@aol.com>, <amps@contesting.com>
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At least it's "1500W output." :-)
WB2WIK
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Subject: [Amps] ANOTHER L4B EBAY (same seller)
Ok it gets better........Here is another L4B from the same seller as the
last one. Get ready for well over 2K dollars? _DRAKE L-4B HF
AMPLIFIER
BRAND NEW UNUSED | eBay_
(http://www.ebay.com/itm/DRAKE-L-4B-HF-AMPLIFIER-BRAND-NEW-UNUSED-/14076
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 22:18:40 -0700
From: "Mike Baker" <k7dd@cox.net>
Subject: Re: [Amps] ANOTHER L4B EBAY (same seller)
To: <Gudguyham@aol.com>, <amps@contesting.com>
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This should be interesting to watch.
Wanna bet this one pushes the 3K mark pretty hard? As weird as that may
seem to me, it just might happen.
Mike Baker K7DD
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Subject: [Amps] ANOTHER L4B EBAY (same seller)
Ok it gets better........Here is another L4B from the same seller as the
last one. Get ready for well over 2K dollars? _DRAKE L-4B HF AMPLIFIER
BRAND NEW UNUSED | eBay_
(http://www.ebay.com/itm/DRAKE-L-4B-HF-AMPLIFIER-BRAND-NEW-UNUSED-/140769208
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2012 01:43:47 -0400
From: "Roger (K8RI)" <k8ri@rogerhalstead.com>
Subject: Re: [Amps] ANOTHER L4B EBAY (same seller)
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On 6/8/2012 1:18 AM, Mike Baker wrote:
> This should be interesting to watch.
>
> Wanna bet this one pushes the 3K mark pretty hard? As weird as that may
> seem to me, it just might happen.
Who do you think winds those auctions? Does and L4B actually put our
1500 watts?
Now if it were a heatkit, unassembeled, in the original box, it would be
a true collectors piece.
The Viking Ranger I the ARRL put together a few years back was worth a
whole lot more before they made the first solder joint. It not only was
rare, it was unique.
But what is there to show an L4B is brand new, never used that will make
it stand out from other pristine L4Bs?
A normal collector would want a piece that screams "I am Unique", I am
worth a fortune to those who can see I'm different!
This may be a never used amp, but it is not "brand new". At best it is
NOS that is likely to need new caps at a minimum before it can be used.
An amp is worth what ever the market will stand and he'll probably get
it, but what is so special about this amp that would make it a genuine
collectors piece?
73
Roger (K8RI)
>
> Mike Baker K7DD
>
>
>
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> Behalf Of Gudguyham@aol.com
> Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 2:56 PM
> To: amps@contesting.com
> Subject: [Amps] ANOTHER L4B EBAY (same seller)
>
> Ok it gets better........Here is another L4B from the same seller as the
> last one. Get ready for well over 2K dollars? _DRAKE L-4B HF
AMPLIFIER
> BRAND NEW UNUSED | eBay_
>
(http://www.ebay.com/itm/DRAKE-L-4B-HF-AMPLIFIER-BRAND-NEW-UNUSED-/140769208
> 487?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20c67fa8a7)
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2012 02:25:02 -0400 (EDT)
From: Gudguyham@aol.com
Subject: Re: [Amps] ANOTHER L4B EBAY (same seller)
To: k8ri@rogerhalstead.com, amps@contesting.com
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Funny thing is, I do not see any mention of the power supply
In a message dated 6/8/2012 1:44:06 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
k8ri@rogerhalstead.com writes:
On 6/8/2012 1:18 AM, Mike Baker wrote:
> This should be interesting to watch.
>
> Wanna bet this one pushes the 3K mark pretty hard? As weird as that may
> seem to me, it just might happen.
Who do you think winds those auctions? Does and L4B actually put our
1500 watts?
Now if it were a heatkit, unassembeled, in the original box, it would be
a true collectors piece.
The Viking Ranger I the ARRL put together a few years back was worth a
whole lot more before they made the first solder joint. It not only was
rare, it was unique.
But what is there to show an L4B is brand new, never used that will make
it stand out from other pristine L4Bs?
A normal collector would want a piece that screams "I am Unique", I am
worth a fortune to those who can see I'm different!
This may be a never used amp, but it is not "brand new". At best it is
NOS that is likely to need new caps at a minimum before it can be used.
An amp is worth what ever the market will stand and he'll probably get
it, but what is so special about this amp that would make it a genuine
collectors piece?
73
Roger (K8RI)
>
> Mike Baker K7DD
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: amps-bounces@contesting.com [mailto:amps-bounces@contesting.com]
On
> Behalf Of Gudguyham@aol.com
> Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 2:56 PM
> To: amps@contesting.com
> Subject: [Amps] ANOTHER L4B EBAY (same seller)
>
> Ok it gets better........Here is another L4B from the same seller as the
> last one. Get ready for well over 2K dollars? _DRAKE L-4B HF
AMPLIFIER
> BRAND NEW UNUSED | eBay_
>
(http://www.ebay.com/itm/DRAKE-L-4B-HF-AMPLIFIER-BRAND-NEW-UNUSED-/140769208
> 487?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20c67fa8a7)
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2012 02:28:46 -0400 (EDT)
From: Gudguyham@aol.com
Subject: Re: [Amps] ANOTHER L4B EBAY (same seller)
To: Gudguyham@aol.com, k8ri@rogerhalstead.com, amps@contesting.com
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Oh yes, he does mention it with no plug, but no photo of the box.
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Gudguyham@aol.com writes:
dated
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2012 09:18:29 -0500
From: Rich <w9cin@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Amps] ANOTHER L4B EBAY (same seller)
To: amps@contesting.com
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If one look's close at the power supply
there is dust on it and a scratch
if he just took it out of the box how did the dust and scratch get there?
"Rich"
On 6/8/2012 1:28 AM, Gudguyham@aol.com wrote:
> Oh yes, he does mention it with no plug, but no photo of the box.
>
>
> In a message dated 6/8/2012 2:25:19 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> Gudguyham@aol.com writes:
>
> dated
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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2012 07:52:16 -0700
From: Vic K2VCO <k2vco.vic@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Amps] ANOTHER L4B EBAY (same seller)
To: amps@contesting.com
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As a working amplifier, the L4B is nicely constructed, but so are a number
of others. And
it doesn't have 160 meters, pretty important these days.
I personally don't get the 'collector mentality' -- the desire to own
something rare or
unique. I admit to having a few old radios and keys myself, but they
aren't rare or
valuable; I just like them. But unless a person is buying these items with
the intent to
sell them for more in the future, it is essentially irrational.
'Irrational' means it doesn't make sense. So we are not going to
understand this!
On 6/7/2012 10:43 PM, Roger (K8RI) wrote:
> On 6/8/2012 1:18 AM, Mike Baker wrote:
>> This should be interesting to watch.
>>
>> Wanna bet this one pushes the 3K mark pretty hard? As weird as that may
>> seem to me, it just might happen.
>
> Who do you think winds those auctions? Does and L4B actually put our
> 1500 watts?
> Now if it were a heatkit, unassembeled, in the original box, it would be
> a true collectors piece.
> The Viking Ranger I the ARRL put together a few years back was worth a
> whole lot more before they made the first solder joint. It not only was
> rare, it was unique.
>
> But what is there to show an L4B is brand new, never used that will make
> it stand out from other pristine L4Bs?
> A normal collector would want a piece that screams "I am Unique", I am
> worth a fortune to those who can see I'm different!
> This may be a never used amp, but it is not "brand new". At best it is
> NOS that is likely to need new caps at a minimum before it can be used.
> An amp is worth what ever the market will stand and he'll probably get
> it, but what is so special about this amp that would make it a genuine
> collectors piece?
>
> 73
>
> Roger (K8RI)
>
>>
>> Mike Baker K7DD
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: amps-bounces@contesting.com [mailto:amps-bounces@contesting.com]
On
>> Behalf Of Gudguyham@aol.com
>> Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 2:56 PM
>> To: amps@contesting.com
>> Subject: [Amps] ANOTHER L4B EBAY (same seller)
>>
>> Ok it gets better........Here is another L4B from the same seller as the
>> last one. Get ready for well over 2K dollars? _DRAKE L-4B HF
AMPLIFIER
>> BRAND NEW UNUSED | eBay_
>>
(http://www.ebay.com/itm/DRAKE-L-4B-HF-AMPLIFIER-BRAND-NEW-UNUSED-/140769208
>> 487?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20c67fa8a7)
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