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Re: [Amps] low Q output matching

To: <amps@contesting.com>, "'Radio WC6W'" <wc6w_amps@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Amps] low Q output matching
From: "Carel, pc5m" <pc5m@xs4all.nl>
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 22:38:55 +0100
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Thanks to all who responded to my initial question, very interesting to read
the comments !. Much appreciated.
Seems (as most of the time..) there isn't a free lunch served...Will just
continue with some moderate Q (10 or so).

Marv, if you could scan the article ? I suppose a 50 year old legacy one
will infringe copyright much...
Thanks in advance,
73's Carel, pc5m.


-----Original Message-----
From: Radio WC6W [mailto:wc6w_amps@yahoo.com] 
Sent: dinsdag 13 november 2012 17:58
To: pc5mCarel; amps@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [Amps] low Q output matching

Hi Carel,
  There's an ancient article in the February 1962 issue of 73 Magazine, pp
12-19, that covers this topic in depth.

  If you can't run down an on line copy, I can have it scanned for you.

73 & Good morning,
  Marv WC6W 

http://qsl.net/wc6w/


--- On Sat, 11/10/12, Carel, pc5m <pc5m@xs4all.nl> wrote:

> From: Carel, pc5m <pc5m@xs4all.nl>
> Subject: [Amps] low Q output matching
> To: "'AMPS'" <amps@contesting.com>
> Date: Saturday, November 10, 2012, 7:26 AM Hi, I was wondering what 
> else, besides bad harmonic suppression, will happen when I design my 
> (single band) output matching network
> (PI-L)  with low Q
> (lowest Q needed to get the match done) ?
> 
> When using low Q design I will get
> - much smaller (variable) capacitors, especially for the bigger load 
> C, so easier to get components
> - broader no-tune range
> -smaller RF stress on the components
> 
> As an example for a 160mtrs amp, with Rload of 1700Ohm and 
> intermediate impedance around 330Ohm:
> With Q of 10:
> CLoad =1200pF
> L-l=10uH
> Ctune=293pF
> Lpi=33uH
> 
> 
> 
> With lowest Q:
> 
> CLoad=400pF
> L-l=10uH
> Ctune=132pF
> Lpi=33uH
> 
>  
> 
> When you plot both matching networks  in a Smith diagram you see 
> immediate the difference. Low Q is much more straightforward.
> To get the needed harmonic suppression a lowpass filter with fixed 
> components is easy to construct (first harmonic at 3,8MHz needs 25dB 
> and second one 20dB to get the same values as higher Q design).
> But maybe I have
> overlooked something . Thanks for your ideas 73's Carel, pc5m
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
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