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Re: [Amps] Advice needed for SS amp

To: Paul Decker <kg7hf@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Amps] Advice needed for SS amp
From: MU 4CX250B <4cx250b@miamioh.edu>
Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 19:42:37 -0600
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Seems to me the 50V limit would be a deal breaker.  I love the idea of
a transformerless design. I wonder if the THP problems were really the
devices, as opposed to a design glitch they never figured out.
73,
Jim W8ZR

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On Jun 5, 2013, at 6:45 PM, Paul Decker <kg7hf@comcast.net> wrote:

> Hi Bill,
> I had an amp using the MRF1500 parts, based on the commercial  Tokyo high 
> power design.
>
> I also talked to the THP guys for a while at Dayton and they are phasing out 
> their ARF1500 design using the Microsemi.  The reason I was told is because 
> of quality issues with the parts themselves.
>
> IMHO, it may be better to go with the NXP BLF578XR since it is a 1500W part 
> although it is only 50V.
>
> Paul,
> kg7hf
>
>
>
> Message: 1  Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2013 09:07:14 -0700  From: Bill Turner   To: 
> Amps   Subject: [Amps] Advice needed for SS amp  Message-ID:   Content-Type: 
> text/plain; charset=us-ascii    I'm thinking of building a solid state 1500 
> watt amp using some of  MicroSemi's high voltage MOSFETs. This is a new kind 
> of project for me and I  would appreciate any comments you might have which 
> would help me avoid any  blunders.    The MicroSemi ARF1500 looks attractive 
> because of its high power  capabilities and relatively low price. Digi-Key 
> carries these for $205 each.  A single one is rated at 750 watts output so I 
> would use two of them. I'm  thinking of water cooling.     MicroSemi data 
> sheet is at  http://www.microsemi.com/existing-parts/parts/81770 and there 
> are other  versions with similar ratings.     Notice the unusually high power 
> supply voltage. I'm thinking of running a  full wave bridge rectifier 
> directly off the 240 VAC line, thus eliminating  the power transformer and 
> giving
  about 340 VDC
>  no-load. The amp would have  to be isolated from ground of course, with 
> input and output coupling via  toroid transformers and PTT switching done by 
> a well-insulated relay.     A set of four 10 amp 600 PIV diodes is available 
> on eBay for less than $30  and a 6800 uF 450 VDC capacitor is available for 
> about $50 including  shipping. There's most of your power supply. Pretty 
> cheap, huh?   :-)    Of course with that size cap a step-start circuit would 
> be mandatory lest  you blow your main house breaker when you power up.    My 
> main use would be RTTY and CW so linearity is not an issue, but do you  have 
> any thoughts on what the IMD might be for SSB? I can't find any data on  
> MicroSemi's website for that. Maybe it's no good for SSB.     Since the 
> output impedance is about 50 ohms, I'm wondering if a 1:1  broadband antenna 
> balun might serve for the output toroid? Just a thought.  Might not be a good 
> idea.     Like I said, I'm a complete newbie at solid state amps so all 
> comments 
 are  welcome. Th
> is almost seems to be too easy to be true. Go ahead, burst my  bubble.   :-)  
>   73, Bill W6WRT
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