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Re: [Amps] Solid state amplifier cooling

To: David Lisney <g0fvt@hotmail.com>, "amps@contesting.com" <amps@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [Amps] Solid state amplifier cooling
From: "Fuqua, Bill L" <wlfuqu00@uky.edu>
Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2013 15:04:54 +0000
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     You have given me an idea. 
May not be original but here it is.
One problem with the  heat transfer from the newer high power devices is making
a good reliable contact with the heat sink. You could use liquid cooling.
The thought is to mount the device on a flat  hollow channel carrying water 
with a rectangular hole and
seal or gasket such that the water comes into direct contact with the devices 
heat 
dissipator. With adequate liquid fluid flow the device dissipate its heat 
directly to the 
fluid, perhaps water, much better than you would have with a metal to metal to 
air
heat transfer scheme. Warping of the metal is not such a problem either. 
73
Bill wa4lav


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From: Amps [amps-bounces@contesting.com] on behalf of David Lisney 
[g0fvt@hotmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 10:35 AM
To: amps@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [Amps] Solid state amplifier cooling

I used to be in the PC overclocking scene many years ago, I used peltier 
heatpumps and a homebrew water cooling system to keep the CPUs cool, and it did 
let them operate at extremely high clock speeds... However, the CPUs rated 
power interpolated to about 40w a piece and the peltier devices were using over 
70w a piece. There are published curves of heatpumping capability versus 
temperature differential etc, mine was quite a high differential trying to run 
CPUs at close to freezing with a water cooling circuit at probably 30c.

I found the biggest challenge was dealing with condensation, ambient air needs 
to be excluded from areas that are operating below the dew point. The second 
issue is algae growth!

One thing I did learn and will use again is the enormous heat capacity of 
water, on doing the maths it was surprising just how small a pump is required 
and just how little flow is required.

At the KW level I am sure a vehicle radiator with a very low power fan would 
suffice, in the case of my computer experiment I only had a few hundred watts 
to shed and a vehicle heater matrix easily coped (blown by a pair of 120mm 12v 
fans operated at 7v).

I think I would still use a computer fan in the vicinity of the PA section, 
obviously it is not just the output transistors that generate heat.

Watercooling also enables the fans to be remote and keeps the noise away from 
the operator.
Mind you a transistor PA with no tuning is easily remote controlled....

Just some thoughts, I have not posted for years but I do read this thread every 
day.

73 de David G0FVT
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