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Re: [Amps] Future of RF AMPS

To: amps@contesting.com, John E Cleeve <g3jvc@jcleeve.idps.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [Amps] Future of RF AMPS
From: <dsolberg@wi.rr.com>
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 20:15:32 +0000
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John,

I don't know what to tell you.  I just tried the URL with Internet Explorer and 
I didn't have any problems.

Don
---- John E Cleeve <g3jvc@jcleeve.idps.co.uk> wrote: 
> Hello Don,
> 
> I have been following the interesting thread. I tried to use the 
> Communications-Concept link, but there is something wrong, my brower 
> does not like it. I then tried a direct route via Google and once I made 
> contact with Communications-Concept, the browser, Internet Explorer 
> stopped working again. Perhaps some one else might try the link.....I 
> would really like to see the products on offer.
> 
> 73, John G3JVC/GM3JVC.
> 
> 
> 
> On 11.09.2013 20:45, dsolberg@wi.rr.com wrote:
> > Richard,
> >
> > Communication Concepts sells combiners that should work.
> > 
> > http://www.communication-concepts.com/index.php/splitter-combiners.html
> >
> > Don
> > K9AQ
> > ---- Richard Solomon <dickw1ksz@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Rumor has it that RF Parts offered a High Power Combiner, but a 
> >> search of
> >> that site
> >> does not show it. There are a few Combiners, but no Data to tell 
> >> what they
> >> do.
> >>
> >> Anyone have a source for a Combiner that will handle 2X 600 to 800 
> >> Watts in
> >> ??
> >>
> >> 73, Dick, W1KSZ
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 9:41 AM, <dsolberg@wi.rr.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > While the MOSFETs can output 1200 watts with four in 
> >> parallel/push-pull,
> >> > the output transformer ratio will limit the practical output to 
> >> between 800
> >> > and 1KW, using a 9:1 with a 50V power supply.  The 9:1 optimal 
> >> output is at
> >> > 800 watts.  Tokyo HyPower uses this design and they rate it for 
> >> 1KW.  I can
> >> > also get 1KW with my homebrew amp with (4) SD2933's, but prefer to 
> >> run it
> >> > closer to 800 watts to improve the IMD.
> >> >
> >> > If you really want the full legal limit, you would be better to 
> >> have two
> >> > PA modules and a combiner.  Otherwise the output transformer 
> >> design is
> >> > going to get real complicated.  The other option is running higher 
> >> voltage,
> >> > which complicates the selection of a power supply.  50 volt 
> >> computer server
> >> > switching power supplies are low cost and easy to obtain.
> >> >
> >> > I am happy with 800-1KW, but maybe someday I will try the combiner 
> >> just
> >> > for the fun of it.
> >> >
> >> > Don
> >> > K9AQ
> >> > ---- Leigh Turner <invertech@frontierisp.net.au> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > Larry, the RF power MOSFETS to which I refer here are the 
> >> VRF2933 devices
> >> > > from Microsemi. Sometimes one can find surplus and NOS ST Micro 
> >> SD2933
> >> > FETS
> >> > > on eBay at low prices.
> >> > >
> >> > > 4 of these rugged 300 Watt rated devices in parallel/push-pull 
> >> will
> >> > yield a
> >> > > saturated output power of well over 1200 Watts.  Six will 
> >> comfortably
> >> > yield
> >> > > over the US legal limit.
> >> > >
> >> > > 73
> >> > >
> >> > > Leigh
> >> > > VK5KLT
> >> > >
> >> > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > From: Amps [mailto:amps-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of 
> >> Larry
> >> > > Sent: Wednesday, 11 September 2013 10:48 AM
> >> > > To: amps@contesting.com
> >> > > Subject: Re: [Amps] Future of RF AMPS
> >> > >
> >> > > On 10-Sep-13 5:51 PM, Leigh Turner wrote: using a readily 
> >> available
> >> > > multiplicity (6 devices in parallel/push-pull) of cheap 50V 
> >> MOSFETS
> >> > sourced
> >> > > from the surplus market.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Leigh,
> >> > >
> >> > > Exactly which cheap MOSFETS from what surplus market are you 
> >> speaking of?
> >> > >
> >> > > Larry - W7IUV
> >> > >
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