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Re: [Amps] Direct rectification of AC mains to derive the amp VDD supply

To: Leigh Turner <invertech@frontierisp.net.au>, amps@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [Amps] Direct rectification of AC mains to derive the amp VDD supply
From: peter chadwick <g8on@fsmail.net>
Reply-to: g8on@fsmail.net
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 11:57:32 +0200
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In some countries, connecting the neutral to an outside earth could be 
extremely dangerous, leading to fires or even electrocution. Where a Protective 
Multiple Earth system is used, a ruptured neutral could pass many amps down any 
earth lead, or lead the coax outer to float up to full mains voltage. This is 
why it is not permitted to bring any conductor within the unipotential zone 
unless it is bonded to the system earth, and  earth leads need to be able to 
carry large fault currents.

Where PME is not used and the neutral is earthed somewhere else, you can still 
get quite a large potential between neutral and earth. When I lived on a 
housing estate in Swindon where the whole estate was fed from a substation 
where the neutral was earthed, on a Sunday morning with washing machines, 
electric cookers, immersion heaters etc all blasting away, I could get 25 volts 
at 500mA - free - between a decent ground and the mains neutral. No RCD (GFI in 
the US) there - if there was one fitted, earthing the neutral to a decent 
external earth would be very safe - you would have no electricity supply 
because the RCD would trip!! At this QTH, at the end of the line feeding other 
houses and a half mile of wire from here to the transformer, the neutral is 
usually around 1 volt above earth potential.

So any system earthing  the neutral is not a good idea and may even be illegal 
in some places.

If one used TLT instead of conventional transformers, the blocking capacitors 
would need to be Class X, and for 160m, at least 10nF. But Class X capacitors 
are not designed for handling large amounts of RF current (ca. 3 amps at 500 
watts) , and are not as low inductance as one would want for 10 metre 
operation. Cascaded RF transformers is, to my mind, asking for trouble. From 
memory, an isolating transformer to meet the regulations needs to withstand 
2kV, although I could be wrong on that.

As Leigh says, the other regulatory requirements offer a problem too. Although 
in Europe at least, kits for amateur radio and home brew equipment are exempt 
from the requirements of the Radio and Telecommunications Terminal Equipment 
and EMC Directives, it is questionable as to whether such exemption applies to 
other directives. Interestingly, kits for non-amateur purposes, such as model 
train controllers, aren't mentioned anywhere......

73

Peter G3RZP
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