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Re: [Amps] Power from Pair of Eimac 4 x 150 a / 7034?

To: "Colin Lamb" <k7fm@teleport.com>, <amps@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [Amps] Power from Pair of Eimac 4 x 150 a / 7034?
From: "Carl" <km1h@jeremy.qozzy.com>
Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2014 20:27:07 -0500
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The 4CX250R was developed for high shock enviroments, military or civilian. The military version was the 7580W and a dual labeled pair was used in the Collins AN/URC-32 shipboard "transceiver" from the early 60's.

Carl
KM1H



----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin Lamb" <k7fm@teleport.com>
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Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2014 4:59 PM
Subject: Re: [Amps] Power from Pair of Eimac 4 x 150 a / 7034?


And, just to complicate things a bit, the 4CX250R is stated to provide more output than the 4CX250B. I think it is rated for repeater usage, although the bias and characteristics are different than the 4CX250B.

73,  Colin  K7FM


On 12/28/2014 1:34 PM, Fuqua, Bill L wrote:
I suspect when EIMAC came out with the 7034 they wanted to suggest that they were a good replacement for the 4X150A. Military particularly wanted to use the same part number when replacing tubes in their radios, and I suspect that EIMAC wanted to not only promote the 7034 they wanted to make one tube type rather than 2. There are subtle differences between the two tubes, besides plate dissipation limit. The characteristic curves for the 4X150A does not show any area where there is a negative flow of screen current, while this is an obvious issue some times with the 7034 and 4CX250B. This could be a problem in some cases when interchanging these tubes. There are other differences, one is that when operating the 7034 at 500MHz it does produce the same output power but requires 1/3 the drive power.
  73
Bill wa4lav

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From: Amps [amps-bounces@contesting.com] on behalf of Colin Lamb [k7fm@teleport.com]
Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2014 8:15 AM
To: Peter Voelpel; amps@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [Amps] Power from Pair of Eimac 4 x 150 a / 7034?

"The Eimac data sheet does not confirm that

http://www.r-type.org/pdfs/4x150a.pdf

The RCA 4X150A/7034 data does:

http://pdf1.alldatasheet.com/datasheet-pdf/view/241849/ETC/7034-4X150A.html";



The RCA data sheet refers to a 4X150A only, which is a different tube than the 4X150A/7034.

73,  Colin  K7FM
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