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Re: [Amps] Be advised: K3 TX DLY differs from documentation

To: "Bob Wilson, N6TV" <n6tv@arrl.net>, Amps group <amps@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [Amps] Be advised: K3 TX DLY differs from documentation
From: Jim Garland <4cx250b@miamioh.edu>
Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2018 12:47:55 -0600
List-post: <mailto:amps@contesting.com>
A well-designed amplifier QSK circuit should never allow hot-switching of the amplifier's T/R relays under any circumstances. There are several ways to accomplish this goal, none of them expensive or complicated. For example, in my own QSK design (QST June 2015, expanded info at http://www.w8zr.net/QSK), there are two modes of operation. The first is "semi break-in", where the only control line to the amplifier is the ordinary relay output from transceiver.

The other mode is "full break-in" which routes the keying line through the amplifier's QSK-IN and QSK-OUT jacks before it reaches the transceiver. In this mode, the amplifier is ready to receive RF before the transceiver begins to transmit. In both modes, however, the amplifier will not key up if RF is prematurely present at its input, and all internal amplifier relay and bias sequencing is done properly.

For operators running semi break-in with any amplifier, whether QSK or not, is it is necessary to set the transceiver's TX Delay menu setting to give advance warning to the amplifier that RF will shortly be on its way. For my design, the amp simply won't key up if this warning is too short, so choosing the correct setting is easily done. The K3's default setting of 8 mS is plenty long enough for most modern amplifiers. With the Flex, shorter delays are possible and can be found by trial and error. In the full break-in mode, it doesn't matter how fast or slow the amp relays are, because there is never any possibility of hot-switching.
73,
Jim W8ZR
Consider, for example, the K3 and Flex 6000 series transceivers. The K3
defaults to an 8msec delay, through menu setting TX DLY, and is
djustable up to 20msec.
  N7YK discovered...that his K3 was hot switching his homebrew QSK
amplifier.  I repeated his measurements using a scope on my K3.  Both
radios had the KSYN3A synthesizer upgrade, which apparently changed
things.  I also measured a friend's K3 that did NOT have the KSYN3A
upgrade, and the results were quite different.
73,
Bob, N6TV
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