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From: PEMS_ST_DK@noeca.ohio.gov (PEMS_ST_DK@noeca.ohio.gov)
Date: Wed Apr 24 12:37:40 1996
I agree with Tom, W8JIs comments.
I have had numerous tvi 'events' in my life including a former neighbor
who wrote to the attorney general because of TVI.  That turned out to 
be a mast mounted preamp and I took his antenna down and installed 
a drake highpass before the preamp-case closed.

I also had a case where I had TVI in my own home.  The cable box turned out
to be the culprit.  As soon as I took it off the top of the tv and 
moved it several inches above the set - the interference was almost
gone!  

Radio Shack filters and chokes are great.  My approach is to keep a supply
on hand and if a problem is apparent I use what fixes it and give the 
homeowner the choice.  " These are the part numbers at RS OR you can
pay me upfront"  Most people pay upfront and are glad to have the problem 
resolved.  If they dont then its up to them to figure it out.

Dan
W8CAR



>From Micheal Ihry <mihry@topher.net>  Wed Apr 24 21:26:22 1996
From: Micheal Ihry <mihry@topher.net> (Micheal Ihry)
Subject: help with software
Message-ID: <01BB31F2.837748E0@ppp05.topher.net>

hello to all
i intend to work the texas qso party from my home qth here in hunt county, tx. 
i looked at my
contest software and none of them will do the tx qso party. what software is 
available that will
score it correctly?? what do the other tqp'ers use??
tnx
de ac5ct...mike in tx


>From k5na@bga.com (Richard L. King)  Wed Apr 24 16:48:44 1996
From: k5na@bga.com (Richard L. King) (Richard L. King)
Subject: Sacrifice to RF Gods
Message-ID: <199604241548.KAA29876@zoom.bga.com>

>I don't know what would appease Murphy...maybe cut
>yourself while putting the cards in the hole....
>
>        About the only thing that will truly appease
>        the GREAT ALMIGHTY MURPHY is to sacrifice a complete 
>        copy of the annotated GREAT ALMIGHTY MURPHY"S 
>        BOOK OF CONTESTING/DX LAWS. 

This is a serious subject that shouldn't be joked about! The proper
sacrifice to the God of RF (G0RF) must be made with each new tower
installation. To not do so will result in your having an ineffective tower
system, personal ruin, and sexual impotence. If you are laughing now, then
DON'T READ FURTHER! You just don't get the importance of this new tower
ritual and you probably never will! The following is not a joke!

Around 1969, my first tower in Texas (a 35 ft crankup) was properly
initiated by dropping a JT1 QSL card in the hole before pouring the
concrete. The ritual was performed with all due solemnity and respect. K5ZJK
(now NX7K) participated in the ceremony before helping me stir and pour the
many bags of sackcrete.  A TA-33 topped the tower off with inverted vees
hanging from the 30 foot level. The tower performed well with a result of
making 5BDXCC (#190), working 300 DXCC countries, and making the top 10 once
(10th exactly) in SS CW.

My second tower, at the same Texas site, was 90 feet of Rohn 45G and the
base was immediately alongside the previous tower base. In 1972, W5RMC (now
W5NA) and I bowed our heads and offered a prayer to G0RF while I dropped a
YA QSL card into the bottom of the hole. We then proceeded to wheelbarrow
about a yard of already-hardening concrete from the concrete carrier to the
backyard. This tower had stacked yagis for 10 through 40, sloping, phased
verticals (guywires) for 80, and was shunt-fed for 160 meters. The tower
worked like a dream. The DXCC honor roll was achieved, dual top-ten finishes
in the 1975 SS (5th CW and 10th phone as K5PFL), many division winning
single-op efforts in the DX contests (was 11th once in ARRL DX CW), and
several top-ten finishes in the ARRL 160 meter contest.

After moving to New York in 1980, I decided a new approach was in order. The
decision was made to go more for QSOs rather than DX. So all the new towers
there had not only a rare DX QSL sacrifice, but I also started adding a few
cards from some of the louder JA stations along with some DL and IK QSLs.
This seemed to work well as the more recent K5NA contesting record speaks
for itself. G0RF smiled on us for the 15 years we lived in New York.

So you can see that this is no joke and it is serious business. If you want
your new tower system to be successful, then you must make the proper
sacrifice to G0RF. To do otherwise is to eternally condemn yourself to
hearing the DX station say other people's callsigns in the pileup or to have
someone with a dipole steal your run frequency. I hope this is useful for
some of you new tower people. It has been a big-gun secret for many years
and I am probably in trouble for sharing it.

73, Richard - K5NA
K5NA@BGA.COM


>From David L. Thompson" <thompson@mindspring.com  Wed Apr 24 16:05:29 1996
From: David L. Thompson" <thompson@mindspring.com (David L. Thompson)
Subject: AI7B and TUCKER'S WEB SITE!
Message-ID: <199604241556.LAA18003@borg.mindspring.com>

I am on another reflector relating to old radios called the boatanchors
group.   A better way to handle commercial messages is to have an archive to
store the message and then have the sysop or some designated person put out
a third party message relating the new resource.
This works well on BA.

This way Alan gets his message  across, we learn of the new resource, and no
"flaming" is needed.

Dave K4JRB


>From William R Liporace <kb2hun@wizvax.wizvax.net>  Wed Apr 24 17:01:19 1996
From: William R Liporace <kb2hun@wizvax.wizvax.net> (William R Liporace)
Subject: 402-CD Questions??
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.91.960424084654.17749A-100000@wizvax.wizvax.net>

Hi Everyone,
I am getting ready for a late summer tower project.  I am hoping to 
install a 70'tower.  The antennas will be a TH6DX and a 402-CD.  This is 
a common installation.  
My main interests are DXing and Contesting.  What I am wondering is: Are 
there mods or adjustments to the 402-CD to improve the F/B??? Gain & F/B?
I have been told that the F/B can be improved and it would be worth the 
work. Comments?
TNX CUL Will

William Liporace KB2HUN          kb2hun@wizvax.net
325 Mountain Street              KB2HUN @ K2TR (yccc packet cluster)
Albany, NY 12209                 KB2HUN @ WA2PVV (NEDA)
518-449-1397 home                518-471-2837



>From Swanson, Glenn,  KB1GW" <gswanson@arrl.org  Wed Apr 24 17:23:00 1996
From: Swanson, Glenn,  KB1GW" <gswanson@arrl.org (Swanson, Glenn,  KB1GW)
Subject: Again, what are the rules?
Message-ID: <317E55DA@arrl.org>


     Maybe this will help...

Although it doesn't contain a list of no-nos (just like the FCC Rules don't
because it'd take up a zillion pages and have 4 zillion foot notes), there
is one line below (see between added  "***" 's), that might help us...
Guess it's mostly up to us to be "self policing" ('til the "sysgods"
get angry, anyway).    ;-)   73! Glenn, KB1GW

 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
CQ-CONTEST@TGV.COM Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) List
                   Revised:  May 12, 1995


What is CQ-CONTEST?

CQ-CONTEST@TGV.COM is an electronic mail reflector dedicated to hams
interested in all types of amateur radio contesting.  *** This is a good
place for score reports, expedition rumors, and other contest-related
discussion or announcements. ***

This forum is more like the NCJ than QST; INFO-HAMS@UCSD.EDU and 
rec.radio.amateur.misc are good places to
look for a more rounded discussion of the hobby.

Each message you send to CQ-CONTEST@TGV.COM will be sent out to all
the other subscribers, kinda like a 2-meter repeater that has a
coverage radius of 12,000 miles or so.  Think of sending mail to the
list as the equivalent of an ANNOUNCE/FULL message on PacketCluster.
Use regular email to send a message to a specific individual.

Electronic mail is also different from packet radio, in that many
subscribers receive their email through commercial services such as
CompuServe and MCImail.  In essence, many people are paying for each
byte of every message sent to CQ-CONTEST.  In order to minimize
spurious messages, follow the operating hints detailed below.
 - - - -
What are the suggested "operating practices" for CQ-CONTEST?

Put your name and call sign on every message you send.  We don't all
know everyone by just a call or a nickname.
Use a subject line that indicates the true subject of your message.

Wait a while before answering someone's question.  Six other people
have probably answered it already.  Most answers should go directly
to the person who posed the question, rather than to the list.

Unlike PacketCluster, many people pay $$$ when they receive messages.
Some people pay per message, some per byte.  Therefore, please take
this into consideration when writing a response.  Would you pay $0.50
to read the message that you just wrote?

Eschew flamage.  If someone sends a flame to the list and you can't
bite your tongue, send your flaming reply directly back to the flaming
individual, not back to the list.  No one wants to pay $1.00 to read
these messages (the original flame + your reply).  Treat flamers the
way you would 2-meter repeater jammers - ignore them.

Make sure there is something of value in each message you send to the
list.  Avoid messages that are a complete reprint of someone else's
message, with nothing but "I agree" or "Me too" added to the bottom --
not much value there.

Some people pay by the byte, so when following up to someone else's
message, be sure to include only the essential pieces or thread of
the note.  Don't include those 20 extra header lines that your mail
gateway tacked onto the original message.
 ----------
> Again, what are the rules?
>
>73,  Steve   K7LXC

>From k5na@bga.com (Richard L. King)  Wed Apr 24 17:25:19 1996
From: k5na@bga.com (Richard L. King) (Richard L. King)
Subject: AI7B and TUCKER'S WEB SITE!
Message-ID: <199604241625.LAA05757@zoom.bga.com>

>In a message dated 96-04-24 10:42:22 EDT, you write:
>
>>The necessity of adding a line like this indicates that
>>you know the rules but choose not to play by them.
>
>      What are the rules?   

I think the rules are very simple. Updates to this reflector should be
non-commerical and related to radio contesting. Anything outside of those
boundries should not be seen here unless specifically approved 
by the reflector owner (Trey - WN4KKN).

If Trey thinks the update has merit, he will likely approve it. Just as he
did when I advertised my New York contesting QTH before we moved to Texas.
It is very impolite not to ask first if you already know the update will be
questionable.

73, Richard
K5NA@BGA.COM


>From John Brosnahan <broz@csn.net>  Wed Apr 24 17:48:25 1996
From: John Brosnahan <broz@csn.net> (John Brosnahan)
Subject: K7LXC and TUCKER'S WEB SITE!
Message-ID: <199604241648.KAA02933@lynx.csn.net>

At 11:11 AM 4/24/96 -0400, you wrote:
>In a message dated 96-04-24 10:42:22 EDT, you write:
>
>>The necessity of adding a line like this indicates that
>>you know the rules but choose not to play by them.
>
>      What are the rules?   All I know is that anyone doing something like
>the aforementioned Tucker post will probably draw the wrath and flamage of
>the contest reflector inhabitants. 

Although the request for no commercial messages is not 
specifically stated in the old copy of the reflector FAQ
that I have, Trey has made it pretty clear from time to time.  
Many of the reflector users add a disclaimer when mentioning
a particular product stating that they have no connections
with the vendor.  This probably is overkill but it does show 
that most of the users are familiar with proper netiquette.

>  After reading it, I deleted it.  What's the big deal?  I didn't have
>to read it.  I don't personally care if someone DOES have some sort of
>connection to a particular product or service. 

A number of people pay for their internet access by the message and
once the signal to noise ratio deteriorates many have decided that
they can't afford to pay for a lot of commercial, flamage, or non-
reflector-specific messages.  It is a reflector devoted to the exchange
of ideas about contesting not a discount store flyer that gets thrown in 
the trash without being read.  The loss of many of these subscribes 
hurts everyone because the group looses their experiences and insights 
on topics for which the reflector was created.

In my personal case my time is very limited and I don't want to wade
through a lot of junk to get to the gems.  Although the signal to noise
ratio has not yet deteriorated to the point where I feel that the value
of the gems is not worth the time it takes to wade through the junk,
it has approached that limit on occasion.

The value and intent of the reflector is that it provides a medium for
dispensing a lot of good contest-related ideas, not that it provides 
an easy access to a specific market for businesses.


>Isn't the sponsor of the reflector (TGV) in the profit business itself?
> Isn't WN4KKN/6 a benefactor of that endeavor?  If they weren't profitable,
>Trey wouldn't have a job and we wouldn't have this great reflector.  

I don't understand your logic here!  Yes, TGV is a profit making business
and certainly Trey is a benefactor, but the fact the TGV is willing to
donate free computer time and Trey is willing to donate some of his
personal time for the operation of the reflector is a benefit to us all, not
an open invitation to every business to take advantage of this very kind
gesture.  I don't see where either TGV or Trey should donate free time to 
every commercial endeavor that comes along, unless those commercial
endeavors want to pay for their advertising in the same way that they
pay for ads in QST. 

My concern is that when some commercial operations start
running ads on the reflector, other commercial operations will
follow.   At what point will it stop?  Will we have to delete ads
for automobiles and personal hygiene products before long?

When FAX machines first started becoming popular a number of
companies started sending ads to every FAX number they could
find.  The result was a waste of paper and time and wear and tear
on the machine.  This practice has largely stopped because the
companies sending the FAXes quickly learned that this was having
a negative impact on many of their potential customers.

I apologize for this much non-contest verbage and my only
defense is that the net result might be a better use of the
reflector in the future and an increase in the ratio of good
stuff to junk.  If anyone has additional comments or problems
with me  they should send them directly to me and not 
waste any more bandwidth than has already been wasted.

73  John  W0UN




John Brosnahan  
La Salle Research Corp      24115 WCR 40     La Salle, CO 80645  USA
voice 970-284-6602            fax 970-284-0979           email broz@csn.net


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