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[CQ-Contest] Competitor Friendly Contesting - 24 Hour

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Subject: [CQ-Contest] Competitor Friendly Contesting - 24 Hour
From: RLVZ@aol.com
Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 21:09:47 EST
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Pete had a grrreat idea.  I'd love to see it happen as due to family,  work, 
and age I am usually restricted to "part-time".
 
73, Dick- K9OM
 
 
In a message dated 11/18/2005 8:22:18 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
n4zr@contesting.com writes:

Several  years ago, two other guys and I publicly proposed a test of a 
"24-Hour Contest  Challenge".  The idea was to allow entrants to one of the big 
DX  
contests, if they wished, also to submit scores and operating periods for a  
24-hour award to be managed completely separately from the "parent"  contest.  
We did some research that suggested the net impact would be  positive - many 
less-than-full-time ops would put in more time on the air in  order to compete 
for it.  We had also gone fairly far in figuring out the  logistics so that 
there would be no effect on the contest sponsors and log  checkers. 

Then I went to Dayton and talked to the contest sponsor (no,  I'm not going 
to name names).  I was astonished by the fierce hostile  reaction.  I thought 
that was just the "my sandbox" syndrome, but in the  weeks thereafter, I was 
also surprised by the negative comments from  contesters I respect.  I still 
didn't (and don't) understand why, but the  bottom line was that I decided to 
drop out, and it never  happened.

Maybe, with our community being (on average) a couple of  years older and 
wiser, it's time to revive the concept.  Anyone who does  it has to be prepared 
to take a lot of flak, though.

73, Pete  N4ZR

At 06:06 AM 11/18/2005, sawyered@earthlink.net  wrote:
>Thanks Gerry.  I understand your point of view and respect  it.
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>It would seem that 3830 is somewhat addressing your  interest in comparing 
"apples to apples" from a time  standpoint.
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>I remember Ward Silver had some dialog going a  while back about the 
"contest within a contest" approach.  He has  attempted to do this with IARU 
for M/S 
Low Power.  Since we are all just  happy enough to have gotten the CQ WW certs 
we have recently, it would seem  that adding more to that is unlikely.  
However, maybe one of the contest  clubs would be successful in more fully 
implementing N0AX's approach and more  fully institutionalize this type of 
approach.
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>73 and see you in  the 'tests.
>
>Ed  N1UR
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>-----Original  Message-----
>From: "Gerry Treas, K8GT"  <k8gt@twmi.rr.com>
>Sent: Nov 17, 2005 8:39 PM
>To:  sawyered@earthlink.net
>Cc: cq-contest@contesting.com
>Subject:  Re: [CQ-Contest] Competitor Friendly Contesting
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>I respect Ed  and Kirk's contesting skills and acumen highly.  I also 
>think  they are really nice guys, too!   But I strongly disagree with  
>their analogies and conclusions.  In a marathon, or race of any  kind you 
>do not need anyone else, except to provide the sponsor with  enough 
>bodies to provide interest, but in a radio contest you "Top Ten  - Top 
>Guns" need all of us "also-rans" and casual contesters, and you  need to 
>generate interest among us so that we participate to help  raise your 
>score..  That score would be rather measly if all of  us weren't in the 
>"mix".  I came to contesting rather late (the  last 15 years) and I have 
>a hard time now staying awake at night, at  60 + years.  I have only had 
>modest stations and I like to  contest from home, the bathroom breaks are 
>all too frequent to do  justice at a Multi-Op.  I have done a few stints 
>at K8CC, thanks  Dave, and 2 CQWW CW's at PJ2T, and had a ball.  But now, 
>I really  would like to be able to compare my results with others of my 
>limited  abilities and resources.   You need us "cannon fodder", so how  
>about throwing us a bone? A chance for a certificate for our 24 hour  or 
>whatever limited. It's not like we'd ever try to say that we "won  the 
>contest" if we received one.  I'm beyond ever being able to  go the full 
>48, do you want me to just forget about it and go do  something else? 
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>73, Gerry K8GT   Still tryin', but  not bloody likely to get  anywhere.
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