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Re: [CQ-Contest] Cheating by M/S - 3 QSO "penalty"

To: "Randy Thompson" <k5zd@charter.net>, <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Cheating by M/S - 3 QSO "penalty"
From: "Kelly Taylor" <ve4xt@mts.net>
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 08:12:19 -0500
List-post: <mailto:cq-contest@contesting.com>
Penalties for inaccuracy only punish the inaccurate, which is the way it 
should be.

73, kelly
ve4xt
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Randy Thompson" <k5zd@charter.net>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 8:37 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Cheating by M/S - 3 QSO "penalty"


> Yuri, we grow tired of your constant harping on this topic.
>
> 20+ years ago I recall you had a score reduction in an ARRL DX Contest due
> to mistakes in the log.  You made the argument that missing just a dot or
> dash in a power should not be enough to lose the whole QSO.  (Or something
> like that.)
>
> The example you provide below is equally silly.  If you are not in the 
> other
> guy's log, then you didn't make the QSO.  You may have thought you did, 
> but
> you didn't.  That's why they check the logs.
>
> No one is suggesting that a blown QSO is cheating (or that the penalty has
> anything to do with punishing cheating).  The contest sponsor has the 
> option
> to provide extra emphasis on participants getting things right.
>
> Log checking in all of the major contests today is the most accurate and
> comprehensive it has ever been.  Congratulations and thanks to all the log
> checkers and contest sponsors.
>
> Randy, K5ZD
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com
>> [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of
>> k3bu@optonline.net
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 1:07 AM
>> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
>> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Cheating by M/S - 3 QSO "penalty"
>>
>>
>> Another reason to eliminate the "teach me the proper logging"
>> stoooopid 3 QSO penalty.
>> I Operated QRP in CQ WW on 160. Typically I spent half an
>> hour to make QSO, waiting for pileup to die. I make few QSOs
>> and I remember each of them. Then I get UBN report and I see
>> that that I am not in the log of EI7M and PJ4M (? the big M/S
>> anyway), I know I worked them, but they "don't have" me in
>> the log. Could it be that I was "inconvenient QSO" due to
>> their "creative logging" bending M/S rule and they decided to
>> cross me out (what's another W/K) in order not to violate the
>> 10 min whatever rule? Email to log checkers was no avail,
>> "take it with perpetrators". The point is that I get
>> penalized for perfectly good QSO, while "clever" M/S gets
>> away with cheating.
>>
>> Time to eliminate the stoopid 3 QSO penalty!!!!!!
>>
>> Yuri Blanarovich, K3BU
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