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Re: [CQ-Contest] SO vs. SOA Scores

To: "Richard L. King" <k5na@ecpi.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] SO vs. SOA Scores
From: Barry <w2up@mindspring.com>
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 02:21:49 +0000
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Richard,
No, not all guest operators.  Only those who have a station engineer at 
their disposal.  In my opinion, that is more assistance than packet 
spots (speaking as an experienced Assisted operator.)
73,
Barry

Richard L. King wrote:
> Barry, it was not my hyperbole, but rather, a question to get 
> clarification of what you said before.
>
> Now I am reading that you think that all guest operators would have to 
> be classified as "assisted". Do I have it now?
>
> If so, I still don't see it as being the same level of help as getting 
> packet spots.
>
> 73, Richard - K5NA
>
> At 23:30 12/21/2006, Barry wrote:
>> The wife bringing the sandwich was a bit of hyperbole, but the guest 
>> op/pit crew scenario wasn't.
>> It's one thing to have a meal delivered.  It's another to have the 
>> resident station engineer swap out parts, fix a rotor, etc. 
>>
>> As has been said many times before, there is no way to equalize the 
>> competition and there never will be (unless the contest is run on 
>> Morse Runner.)
>>
>> 73,
>> Barry
>>
>> Richard L. King wrote:
>>>
>>> Are you saying that using packet is the same thing as your wife 
>>> bringing you a sandwich.
>>>
>>> Sorry, I just don't see that.
>>>
>>> The trouble is that this subject can be nitpicked to death. There are 
>>> just too many "help" scenarios that can be thought up and you
>>> can't 
>>> logically group them into the "using packet" class, whatever
>>> name it 
>>> goes by. Using packet is very different and really helps my score, 
>>> while a sandwich does nothing for my score.
>>>
>>> Though I sometimes feel there are too many categories these days, if 
>>> it encourages more activity I am OK with it.
>>>
>>> And I don't think anything anyone says here will cause the
>>> "assisted" 
>>> and "unassisted" categories to be combined. Nor will it create
>>> rules 
>>> saying a single-op has to operate from a sealed room.
>>>
>>> Happy holidays.
>>>
>>> 73, Richard - K5NA
>>>
>>> At 11:39 12/21/2006, Barry wrote:
>>>  
>>>       
>>>>
>>>> The definition of Assisted only refers to using a spotting network.
>>>> However, I see no difference between SOA and SO/guest op or an SO with a
>>>> "pit crew."  True single op is single op.  Single op
>>>> with helpers to
>>>> prepare meals, fix equipment problems, etc., is not single op, IMO.
>>>> 73,
>>>> Barry
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Barry Kutner, W2UP
>>>> Newtown, PA
>>>>
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>>
>> -- 
>>
>> Barry Kutner,
>> W2UP             
>> Newtown,
>> PA                    
>>     

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Barry Kutner, W2UP             
Newtown, PA                     

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