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Re: [CQ-Contest] Annual Suggestion

To: Randy Thompson <k5zd@charter.net>, <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Annual Suggestion
From: Guy Molinari <guy_molinari@hotmail.com>
Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 01:07:43 +0000
List-post: <mailto:cq-contest@contesting.com>
Hi Randy,
    I think this is an idea that's time has come.   I personally will continue 
to do/strive to to 48 hour efforts.  Some years ago (many years actually) when 
I was involved with running I would do the shorter races i.e. half-marathons 
(13 mi), 5K, 10K, etc.  Full marathons are different events requiring different 
levels of preparation/strategy.   Another analogy is the Olympic track events.  
 
I would rather see off-times of a minimum of one hour rather than a continuous 
segment though.   
 
This is a real win-win for everyone because I believe it will encourage more 
activity and perhaps create an incentive for the casual folks to participate 
more competitively.
 
I'm not a lawyer, but I would think that adding this category would give 
another level of liability protection for the sponsors in case someone pushes 
too hard (doing the full 48).
 
As others have pointed out, the magazine space thing is IMHO a red herring.  It 
wont be long before all that is published is the top 10 box anyway.
 
 
73 - Guy, N7ZG> > From: "Randy Thompson" <k5zd@charter.net>> Subj: Re: 
[CQ-Contest] Annual Suggestion> Date: Sat 24 Feb 2007 12:54> Size: 4K> To: 
<cq-contest@contesting.com>> > It has been interesting to watch how the debate 
has progressed on this> issue. In any 48 hour DX contest, there are may be 20 
people world wide who> operate more than 44 hours. I had no idea there were so 
many others who> feel that unlimited operating time is such an important part 
of contesting.> > I am a guy who can do 48 hours in a weekend. It is hard, but 
in some cases> it is the only way to play if you want to win. I.e., I 
personally never> want to finish second in a contest only because I didn't 
operate the extra> hour or two!> > Let's attack the problem from a different 
direction...> > Contests are funny things. Competitors (the hard core 
contesters) think the> contest is run for them so they can test and prove their 
skill. However,> contest sponsors provide contests to create as much fun for as 
many people> as possible (the masses).> > I think we all can agree that 48 
hours is in the best interest of the> masses. It is fun to get on the air at 
various times over the weekend and> find activity. It is also nice for the guys 
who travel to DX locations to> have 48 hours of fun for their investment.> > 
The problem for me is that the current approach only offers one level of> 
competition. You are either trying to win the whole thing or you are "just> 
playing around." If you are a competitive person (and most contesters are),> 
you want to compete. But, if your life on a given weekend is crowded with> 
other priorities, you are designated into the playing around group.> > Why not 
create some sub classes that provide more fun for more people.> These classes 
should not change any of the existing classes. They should> just be there to 
give people more races to run (kind of like having a> quarter or half marathon 
run on the same course as a full marathon). They> should also not incent people 
to operate less (the goal should always be to> increase overall activity!).> > 
My suggestion:> > - Create 12 hour and 24 hour races> - The 12 or 24 hours 
consist of a continuous period beginning with your> first QSO (i.e., the clock 
starts with your first QSO)> - There are no off times> - You can operate the 
contest as much as you want. Your score is calculated> by the log checker based 
on the first 12 and 24 hour marks> - No preregistration or special marking of 
your log. ALL LOGS are included> in the scoring/results> > Advantages:> - Easy 
to administer> - Everyone can play> - A guy trying for a 12/24 hour win still 
has to compete with the full time> competitors> - Entrants may chose to stop 
operating when they reach their time limit, but> they are not required to do 
so> > Disadvantages> - Extra log checker burden> - Extra page or two of 
results> - Requires change of thinking (apparently difficult for many of us!)> 
> This would also make a simple contest within a contest to run if the main> 
contest sponsor was not interested.> > Look forward to discussion on a "new" 
idea.> > Randy, K5ZD> > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----> > From: 
cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com > > 
[mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Eric Hilding> > Sent: 
Monday, February 19, 2007 8:46 PM> > To: cq-contest@contesting.com> > Cc: 
nccc@contesting.com> > Subject: [CQ-Contest] Annual Suggestion> > > > <annual 
suggestion>> > > > After reading many "I couldn't operate more than 30, 35 or 
40 > > hours" type comments in 3830 posts, it's that time again for > > my 
Annual Suggestion to add a "36 out of 48 Hours" category > > (or something like 
that) to the ARRL DX Contest for those of > > us in the Geriatric Generation.> 
> > > I appreciated the past supportive comments of AL, D4B/4L5A, > > and 
others who also believe that such a Category might > > actually increase 
activity. OF's who aren't willing to make > > a serious effort or sacrifice 
their health knowing they can't > > (or won't) be able to do the entire 48 
hours are more likely > > to go like proverbial bats-out-of-h*ll for 36 hours 
in the > > chance to competitively win something.> > > > </annual suggestion>> 
> > > 73...> > > > Rick, K6VVA> > > > > > > > 
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