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Re: [CQ-Contest] true RST

To: <vo1he@rac.ca>, <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] true RST
From: "JAMES HEADRICK" <W3CP@CHARTER.NET>
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 19:36:03 -0000
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Paul, my 1957 ARRL DX log shows a variety of RST numbers, and I received 
almost no 599s. I guess many like me didn't have a S meter that meant 
anything so their signal strength was a subjective estimate.

I think it changed because people wanted more speed and less information 
transfer.

Perhaps tradition is why it's still there. I liked the real RST reports 
because they gave an idea about propagation and how you were doing compared 
to others.  -Jim  w3cp


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Paul J. Piercey" <p.piercey@nl.rogers.com>
To: <w5ov@w5ov.com>; "'Paul O'Kane'" <pokane@ei5di.com>
Cc: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 3:30 AM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Dumbing-Down Contests?


> Just a quick question... with follow-ups.
>
> At any time in contesting was the signal report considered important 
> enough
> to be a true RST rather than the standard 599?
>
> If so, why did that change?
>
> If not, why is it being used at all?
>
>
> 73 -- Paul VO1HE
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com
>> [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of w5ov@w5ov.com
>> Sent: February 21, 2008 23:32
>> To: Paul O'Kane
>> Cc: cq-contest@contesting.com
>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Dumbing-Down Contests?
>>
>> EI5DI said:
>> > It is broke!  It has been broken for over 20 years - since computer
>> > logging became the norm.
>> >
>> > CT, the first major contest logger, had no provision for
>> logging RST
>> > Sent as anything other than 59(9).  Since then, the
>> mindless exchange
>> > of 59(9) has become redundant.
>> >
>>
>> Paul,
>>
>> 599, or more accurately 5NN has been the default signal
>> report for at least the 35 years that I have been contesting
>> / DXing and probably goes back even longer than that.
>>
>> I think it might be more accurate to say that CT followed the
>> de facto standard of logging 599 as the sent RST instead of
>> causing it.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Bob W5OV
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