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Re: [CQ-Contest] Self spotting rationale

To: Joe <nss@mwt.net>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Self spotting rationale
From: Mirko S57AD <miroslav.sibilja@amis.net>
Reply-to: miroslav.sibilja@amis.net
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 20:14:00 +0200
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Hi Joe,

I meant packet cluster, FM networks were in use for decades. I recall 
guys at YU4EXA were used to announce DX frequencies in Japanese numerals 
(ichi, ni, san, etc) to prevent hijacking spots by local rivals at 
YU4FRS who SWL-ed YU4EXA FM channel regularly.

Another funny anecdote from my YU1EXY days. As our FM network frequency 
we used 145 200 (if I recall correctly). One day YU1EW called his 
brother home and told him "Call YU1** at 145 200 and ask him to call me 
at work." Two hours later, Zoky called his brother again "Did you call 
YU1** ?".
"I called several times, phone rung but nobody answered."  (In those 
days, 6 digit phone numbers were in use in Yugoslavia). :-D

Joe pravi:
> At least in the Chicago area it was absolutely the other way around  
> DX spotting,  then contesting.
>
> I remember many a guys on these DX spotting nets being classed as 
> "Sandbaggers"
>
> Where they would find the rare DX station,  but not tell anyone until 
> they worked them first!
>
> Once they had them in the log  then they'd get on the air and  say   
> DX  of bla bla bla on 14.215  this is K9 xyz,,
>
> Mirko S57AD wrote:
>> Contrary, clusters were established by contesters and hijacked by DXers, 
>> as far as I recall.
>>
>> 73 Mirko, S57AD
>>
>> Michael Coslo pravi:
>>   
>>> On Jul 30, 2009, at 1:48 AM, Zoli Pitman HA1AG wrote:
>>>
>>>   
>>>     
>>>> Andrew wrote:
>>>>     
>>>>       
>>>>> how
>>>>> useful would the spotting network be during a contest if everyone
>>>>> repeatedly spotted themselves non-stop for 48hrs?  It would be  
>>>>> chaos and
>>>>> the cluster would probably fall over within minutes!
>>>>>       
>>>>>         
>>>> this sounds like a good idea to me... even better if this code  
>>>> included
>>>> randomized calls and frequencies.. :-)
>>>>     
>>>>       
>>> Yikes! You've just described a small denial of service attack. It's  
>>> also the equivalent of jamming. Really bad idea, even to joke about.
>>>
>>> In addition, the DX clusters are there for DX'ers. That they get  
>>> hijacked by contesters is one thing, but when we talk about posting  
>>> bogus info, or to bring them down, that's not a good thing.
>>>
>>>
>>> -73 de Mike N3LI -
>>>
>>>
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