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Re: [CQ-Contest] Is it time to reevaluate CQWW Scoring Rules?

To: "'Robert Chudek - K0RC'" <k0rc@citlink.net>, "'Stan Stockton'" <stan@aqity.org>, "'David Kopacz'" <david.kopacz@aspwebhosting.com>, "'Andrew'" <ac6wi@comcast.net>, <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Is it time to reevaluate CQWW Scoring Rules?
From: "Rick Lindquist, WW3DE" <ww3de@comcast.net>
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 10:10:13 -0500
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I agree with Bob. I enjoy 160 a lot, but my setup is quite modest, and
working any DX is a treat. The US covers a lot of geographical territory,
and working the West Coast from Delaware can be a chore.

There's not much incentive for stations like mine to participate in the Stew
Perry.

Thanks to all with whom I made Qs in the ARRL 160 Meter Contest last
weekend. My apologies to the three stations I worked with my old FT-101E for
having to put up with my post-stroke hand key sending.

73, Rick, WW3DE

-----Original Message-----
From: cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com
[mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Robert Chudek - K0RC
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 8:19 PM
To: Stan Stockton; David Kopacz; Andrew; cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Is it time to reevaluate CQWW Scoring Rules?

Stan K5GO said:

"...Stew Perry Contest with all contacts based on distance, no contacts
allowed within your own country..."

Well this automatically tips the scale in favor of EU with all the tightly 
packed countries on the continent. Germany and France or no further apart 
than Mississippi and Alabama. If you want to disallow contacts, disallow 
them from within the same grid square or a perimeter of grid squares of the 
operator.

73 de Bob - KØRC in MN



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Stan Stockton" <stan@aqity.org>
To: "David Kopacz" <david.kopacz@aspwebhosting.com>; "Andrew" 
<ac6wi@comcast.net>; <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 11:00 AM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Is it time to reevaluate CQWW Scoring Rules?


>> I am very interested in ideas how the scoring system could be changed
>> in
>> a manner that gives everyone a fair chance to win, regardless of
>> location.
>>
>> David ~ KY1V
>
> We are talking about a World Wide DX Contest where US and DX compete to
> see who can win the world.  It is not a given that the winner is going
> to be from outside the USA.  Do you believe the scoring system should be
> changed in this contest so someone in Northwest Wisconsin should be on
> par with a similarly equipped station and operator in the Carribean?
> What would that take - making counties in Wisconsin count as multipliers
> and not allowing the Carribean stations to work Europe?
>
> It was a long shot that K3LR would win in the M/M category for the
> world, but he did and I bet it was a very special victory.
>
> Personally, I like the CQ WW Contest just the way it is and don't think
> the rules should be changed at all.  I certainly would not want the
> rules to change so the log would be filled with W/VE contacts.  Even
> though it would be to my relative advantage, the W/VE contest is
> Sweepstakes.
>
> Not saying this is what happened but for  example, if the GI0KOW log is
> filled with about a thousand contacts that are all a chip shot away
> (less than a thousand miles), do you really think he should have won
> based on his (really good) QSO total?  How far is GI0KOW from Germany
> (600 miles or so?) where about 20% of all the European contacts come
> from.  Is he within a thousand miles of 75 % of all European contacts?
>
> I do wish a NEW all band DX contest existed with the same rules as the
> Stew Perry Contest with all contacts based on distance, no contacts
> allowed within your own country, perhaps a little bonus for lower band
> contacts like WPX and countrry multipliers to make it even more
> interesting.  I think it would quickly become very popular and would
> certainly be fair in the scoring department.  EVERYONE would feel like
> there was truly worldwide competition.  The CQ Contest, however, should
> not be changed, but instead enjoyed for what it is.
>
> An interesting exercise (N6TR) would be take a few logs from the CQ WW
> Contest, come up with a database of grid squares based on the callsign
> database and score those logs using the Stew Perry Contest rules.  I am
> sure it would make me feel better about our relative score from Arkansas
> :-)
>
> Stan, K5GO
>
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