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Re: [CQ-Contest] Did I cheat in NAQP CW?

To: Julius Fazekas <phriendly1@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Did I cheat in NAQP CW?
From: Richard Zalewski <dick.w7zr@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 06:29:55 -0700
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#3 Ok, where does this put me--- Late in the contest I call "CQ Contest
Looking for Rhode Island"?  A Rhode Island station calls that has to be ok
IMHO but I would guess that if someone came on freq and said there is a RI
up 5 that would put me assisted or multi.  Right?


On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 5:47 AM, Julius Fazekas <phriendly1@yahoo.com>wrote:

> Using callbook names also can backfire... Some of us do not use our "legal"
> names. Some change things up just to keep folks honest or is it just to make
> it interesting? ;o)
>
> 73,
> Jul?
>
> Julius Fazekas
> N2WN
>
> Tennessee Contest Group
> http://www.k4ro.net/tcg/index.html
> http://groups.google.com/group/tcg1?hl=en
>
> Tennessee QSO Party
> http://www.tnqp.org/
>
> Elecraft K2/100 #4455
> Elecraft K3/100 #366
> Elecraft K3/100 #1875
>
>
> --- On Mon, 1/11/10, Robert Brandon <rb@austin.rr.com> wrote:
>
> > From: Robert Brandon <rb@austin.rr.com>
> > Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Did I cheat in NAQP CW?
> > To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> > Date: Monday, January 11, 2010, 3:25 PM
>  > 1.  IMHO, the callsign history
> > feature -- assuming you use only the data you
> > have accumulated -- is okay. I don't see that as very
> > different from going
> > to Dayton every year and getting to know a lot of
> > people.  But you use it at
> > your own risk when folks do something like use "Ken" in
> > memoriam or operate
> > from a different state.
> >
> > Using the callbook is different.  If everybody used
> > it, no one would copy
> > exchanges and that's an important part of the game.
> >
> > 2.  The purest of the purists would say make no
> > changes to your log once the
> > event is over, but a much bigger majority say it's okay to
> > check your log
> > before you send it in.  (Remember post contest
> > duping?)  Just use your own
> > notes.  So if the software makes it easier as you log
> > subsequent Qs, I'd say
> > that's okay.  But I think the post contest log
> > checkers go a bit too far.
> >
> > 3.  All of us get unsolicited info once in a
> > while.  Just don't solicit it.
> >
> >
> > Robert K5PI
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com
> > [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com]
> > On Behalf Of Art Boyars
> > Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 9:55 AM
> > To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> > Subject: [CQ-Contest] Did I cheat in NAQP CW?
> >
> >  #1 is sort-of serious.  #2 is in the
> > angels-on-the-head-of-a-pin
> > category. #3 is mostly tongue sort-of in cheek.
> >
> >  1.  If it's OK to use "call history" files, is it OK
> > to look up states in
> > the (on-line) callbook.  Why should one list of
> > historical data be OK, and
> > the other not?  (I did NOT look up anybody's state or
> > name in the 'Test.)
> >
> > 2.  I worked a guy whose state I know.  And he
> > did indeed send that state
> > (to me AND to the guy who beat me out on the first
> > call).  When I worked him
> > on the second band, I knew his state would be a mult.
> > When I typed in his
> > call the logging software filled in the report for me, but
> > did not indicate
> > it was a new mult.  Hmmm?  Oh!  It says
> > "MD"  I must have entered his state
> > as MD the first time.  I guess I was listening to my
> > report being sent while
> > I typed in his report, and unconsciously typed in my own
> > state.  No
> > problem.  I rolled back in the log and fixed his state
> > in the first QSO, and
> > continued working the 'Test.
> >
> > Now, my own opinion is that anything I fix DURING the
> > contest is OK -- but I
> > had been considering errors that I recognized right
> > away.  In this case, I
> > would not have noticed the error except for the fill-in
> > feature of the
> > logging software.
> >
> > 3.  Late in the 'Test I made a desperate jump to 40M
> > (which was already
> > pretty dead by the time I started the 'Test).  I heard
> > somebody tuning up,
> > and a well-know station in GA called CQ NA.  I
> > listened for a moment, and
> > heard him get no answers.  So I called him by name,
> > and said "You are vy
> > loud but nobody is here.  GL"
> >
> > Did I make him multi-op?  (He did keep calling
> > CQ.)  Should we never give
> > ANY info that might help the other guy, including "VY LOUD"
> > or (as my buddy
> > N6XI once said to me) "P**S WEAK".  BTW, I reserve the
> > right to tell N3AM he
> > is very loud.  I think that from the top of his tower
> > John can see my
> > antenna ...if he looks down.
> >
> > 73, Art K3KU
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-- 
Tnx es 73
Dick W7ZR
www.w7zr.com

Pax Domini sit semper vobiscum
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