Ken
Guys that do custom Guitar Piks should be able to fabricate you a nice
replacement or a
nice set from other materials etc if desired.
I busted mine when I bounced my Shurr Profi II a while back and a local ham
made me some nice ones but you may want a PERFECT set
Great to work VY2TT in past few contests - beautiful sig on Left Coast
and Skip gave presentation at last SD DX Club meeting of your stn and antennas
and ongoing work etc
I also own a N2DAN paddle, it was the last one ever produced from parts that
were laying around after he had become SK !
( So let me know who you finally get to make your replacement pieces JIC I ever
bounce or crack mine ! )
73, Dennis N6KI
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1. VO1DD and QRM in CQ WW CW 2010... (Zrinko Zibert)
2. Re: Frustration this weekend (Radio K0HB)
3. Re: From VO1DD re Interference with emergency traffic (Edward)
4. Re: From VO1DD re Interference with emergency traffic
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5. Re: Frustration this weekend..... (VK4TI)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2010 12:44:06 +0100
From: Zrinko Zibert <ve3zik@googlemail.com>
Subject: [CQ-Contest] VO1DD and QRM in CQ WW CW 2010...
To: CQ-Contest@contesting.com
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Hello all,
some friends told me about this message onto CQ-Contest reflector.
I guess it would be nice to hear also an opposite side, HI
This is a copy of e-mail answered to Doug, VO1DD.
___________________
Hello Doug!
So, first at all, my deep sorry for QRM.
I used mostly 250/500 Hz filter, so that could be the reason why I
din't heard you. Yes, last weekend was CQ WW CW Contest and band was
full, time to time till 14140 KHz.
I would never ignore anyone who's gonna ask for QSY due to emergency
situation. I didn't copy you asked me also on CW to QSY, will do that
immediatly. 1300z is crowded time for contesting in Eu,a lot of strong
EU sigs at that time.
Once again, my deeply sorry, please accept apologise. Normally, I am
using CW on regular CW frequency.
I hope you understand what was a problem onto my site in EU, and i
didn't ignore your CW/SSB question for QSY. At least, i am over 20
year HAM and understand what the emergency situation is.
73,
Zrinko Zibert (Zik) VE3ZIK, DO7ZZ, YT3ZZ
so, let it be clear, no CW decoder, 14122 was a good frequency for low
power station to call CQ...
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73, Zik VE3ZIK, DO7ZZ, YT3ZZ
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2010 03:53:15 -0000
From: "Radio K0HB" <kzerohb@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Frustration this weekend
To: "Nate Bargmann" <n0nb@n0nb.us>, <cq-contest@contesting.com>
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It may be many things, but it is NOT "broadcasting".
"Broadcasting" is defined in ?97.3(a)(10) as "Transmissions intended for
reception by the general public....."
> .....or borders on broadcasting on the part of the running station.
>
> 73, de Nate N0NB >>
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2010 07:00:26 -0500
From: "Edward" <sawyered@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] From VO1DD re Interference with emergency
traffic
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
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Doug, You sound like a sincere and level headed op from this post and thank
you for the service you are providing to the ham radio community. Here are
a couple of my opinions on the situation you describe based on my 20+ years
of contesting experience:
- You were right in assuming that speaking on SSB to a contesting
CW op would not work. Personally, I am typically using 250hz filter
bandwidth with steep skirts and often listening back and forth on the upper
and lower sideband of the center frequency. I would never hear you.
- How is your German? A huge number of non-english speaking
contesters and DXers only know the callsigns and exchange and a few Q
designators. Even if the German ham was well intended, he very likely had
no idea what you tried to say unless you sent SOS to him.
- When that didn't work, and recognizing a serious situation is at
hand, did you QSY to a clear frequency up the band? I personally know that
the wall of CW did not get much above 14.125 since I was up there numerous
times.
- I was not aware of your net frequency or service until this
posting.
- Even now being aware, as you probably are aware, the US amateur
regulations specifically state that no amateur operator "owns" a frequency,
20 year net schedule or not. So as the unintentional QRM began, here in the
US, it would be as much your obligation as the German operators obligation
to move to a new frequency, unless a emergency or significant health and
welfare situation exists (which arguably it did in this case). I certainly
hope for the sake of the vessel in need, you moved up 5 or 10 kc to stay on
top of the situation given your reasonable efforts to move the German
contester failed.
The fact is that there were over 5,000 has contesting last weekend. From a
spectrum allocation standpoint, it would be more prudent for your net to
move once in a while to continue its good service than to force 99% of the
traffic volume of last weekend into a smaller spectrum so that 1% can go on
as if it's a normal weekday. Likely 350 days a year, that is the case
without issue. The rest of us would appreciate a little consideration for
the 16 days a year that would help us out.
All that being said, had I been the op, I would have quickly moved for you.
But I understand english fluently.
73,
Ed N1UR
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 21:40:45 -0700
From: David Gilbert <xdavid@cis-broadband.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] From VO1DD re Interference with emergency
traffic
To: cq-contest@contesting.com, ddemeza@magma.ca
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1. Just because you think your 600 watts should be loud in Germany
doesn't mean that you were louder than whatever European QRM DD4B might
have been experiencing. It seems kind of presumptuous of you to simply
accuse him of ignoring you.
2. In the U.S., the CW subband on 20m extends all the way up to 14150
... no SSB is allowed below that frequency for any class of license.
Given that 20m is not much of a short haul band much of the time, it
seems questionable to me to park an emergency SSB net on a frequency
that excludes 90% of the regional pool of potential responders. In any
case, even you should be able to recognize the difficulty in trying to
tell someone in another country they don't have the right to operate on
frequencies authorized by their own government.
3. Most contesters I know try their best to give emergency nets, many
of who operate on poorly publicized frequencies commonly known only to
those who spend time on them, as much leeway as necessary. There were
tens of thousands of hams on the air that weekend and you choose to
negatively categorize all contesters based upon one of them on another
continent who probably didn't hear you anyway. How petulant of you.
4. What kind of "emergency" capability doesn't plan for a backup??
Your net doesn't have any provision for temporary QSY in case of
interference? That doesn't sound like a very reliable communication
procedure to me.
It's probably a good thing that I and many other contesters choose NOT
to categorize all net operators and emergency nets based upon your email.
73,
Dave AB7E
On 11/30/2010 1:12 PM, DK Card wrote:
> Good afternoon,
>
> My name is Doug Card, callsign VO1DD. During the contest period ,
> specifically Sunday on or about 1235Z , our maritime mobile net was involved
> with a vessel who had declared an emergency on a frequency of 14.122.50.
> This is a frequency used by the Mississauga maritime mobile net which is on
> 24/7 @ 1245Z. This vessel had been having difficulty for a few days.
> Conditions continued to deteriorate for this vessel. We were working the
> vessel and taking important information from the captain at the time. All
> was well until a station involved in the contest came on to the frequency
> and started to call CQ contest.
>
>
>
> I am primarily a CW op and was able to clearly copy the callsign, DD4B ,
> which apparently is a contest station in Bonn , Germany. I asked on SSB for
> him to please respect the situation and to please give us a clear frequency
> to operate. I asked several times as he continued to call CQ test. His
> signal here was very strong. I switched to CW and still got no response and
> the interference continued. He continued and started to draw other contest
> stations to the frequency which of course caused even more interference. If
> he heard me and still blatantly ignored the situation he is not a true ham
> operator as far as I'm concerned. Ham radio exists because of its public
> service element and when a contest interferes with the ability of hams to do
> that service , I have serious problems with ham radio being used as a
> contest medium especially if they only "come out to play" for contests as
> apparently many operators do. I have no problem with that as long as they
> are aware that there are a lot of us out there who spend considerable
> operating time in public service and deserve to be respected as well
>
>
>
> That far up in the band is not primarily a CW portion of 20 mtrs although I
> am well aware that CW is legal anywhere in the ham bands. Again I am
> primarily a CW op and as such am very careful when operating on CW in the
> phone portion of the band (which does not happen often). I can appreciate
> that the station likely had his filtering narrowed right down and could not
> read my sideband signal clearly. However he was technically in the phone
> portion of the band and should have been more aware of the possibility that
> emergency traffic might exist. Hopefully he was not using a code reader.
>
> I was running 650 watts to the antenna and I am sure he would have been able
> to hear me if not so focused on scoring points!. I am well aware that CW
> contesting is not the way it used to be with keyboards/computers used for
> sending as well as decoding.
>
>
>
> The situation was very serious and could have turned out very badly ending
> in a possible loss of a vessel at sea. For this reason as far as I'm
> concerned , during contests stations should be limited to the CW sub-bands
> so that the possibility of another incident like this occurring is minimized
> as most vessels on the high seas use SSB communications.
>
>
>
> This incident has certainly done nothing to enhance my feelings about
> contesting. I'm always told that contesting makes better operators. If
> this incident is an example of that , that reasoning holds no credence.
>
>
>
> 73
>
> Doug Card VO1DD
>
> Hearts Delight ,Newfoundland
>
>
>
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2010 21:31:21 +1000
From: VK4TI <vk4ti@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Frustration this weekend.....
To: David Levine <david@levinecentral.com>
Cc: "Shane Mattson-->K1ZR" <k1zr@comcast.net>,
"CQ-Contest@contesting.com" <CQ-Contest@contesting.com>
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Then there is the opposite. The true high performers like Cn2r who identify
with every transmission. Listening to the mp3 files on cn2r website gives an
insight into best practice pileup handling.
Vk4ti
Trent Sampson
0408 497550
On 30/11/2010, at 10:20 AM, David Levine <david@levinecentral.com> wrote:
> Shane,
>
> I operated assisted and not sending the call was still frustrating. I don't
> use the cluster as the authoritative source of the station's call so I wait
> to hear the call sign. There were many incorrectly spotted stations and if
> folks went off that and didn't wait for the calling station to id, they
> probably will get dinged for it. There were stations with mis-typed calls
> and there were completely different stations on frequency then what the spot
> indicated, like from station 1 moving away and station 2 moving in.
>
> And as a follow-up reply indicated, when a station finally did send their
> call sign, it was a dogpile on the rabbit with a bunch of folks doing the
> right thing and waiting for an id. I often moved to a different station if
> someone went 3 exchanges without sending their id and just sending TU.
>
> The split stations were rough to deal with since they at best sent "UP" but
> didn't indicate where. Some of the spots had the up less then 1Khz. I don't
> think I ended up working any of the split stations though I tried a couple.
> This is supposed to be fun, not frustrating.
>
> K2DSL - David
>
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 12:57 PM, Shane Mattson-->K1ZR
<k1zr@comcast.net>wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Is it me or is the issue with DX signing their call sign once every 1-3
>> minutes (sometimes more!) getting extremely frustrating? The worst example
>> was a station in the Africa region who decided to run split on
>> 15M and informed callers of their callsign and RX frequency every 1-3
>> minutes causing a pileup of callers on their TX frequency and a swath of
>> stations sending 'Up', 'Up', 'Up'. Seriously, not everyone relies on packet
>> spots and it would be great if the DX could sign their call every 4-5 q's.
>> This is where bogus spots on the cluster cause major problems as I'm sure
>> that those who simply point and shoot to a spotted mult work 'em and move on
>> before actually hearing the station's call. Help!
>>
>>
>>
>> -Shane K1ZR
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 20:14:30 -0800
From: "Ken Widelitz" <widelitz@gte.net>
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Need N2DAN Paddle Finger Pieces
To: "'CQ-Contest'" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
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A finger piece for my N2DAN paddle cracked. Any suggestions for a source for
a replacement?
73, Ken, K6LA / VY2TT
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