Depends on your definition of "spotting system" - one could assert
(and I think it probably is the intent of the rule) that a "spotting
system" is one where (other) humans (not part of your team) submit
posts of the stations they hear, so a (remote) skimmer (that you
control) wouldn't count as a "spotting system"....?
~Iain / N6ML
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 9:35 PM, K1TTT <K1TTT@arrl.net> wrote:
> Go back to the first paragraph of rule 6:
>
> 6. Prohibited activities: Use of Internet-based and/or radio-based spotting
> systems and/or chat rooms is not permitted for the purposes of improving
> your score, regardless of category.
>
> This outlaws any use of the internet so the RBN and any other skimmers that
> you connect to via the internet are off limits. That would kind of require
> a direct copper line to the remote skimmer or receivers wouldn't it? would
> this also not prohibit internet accessed remote operation, even within the
> 100km range?
>
>
> David Robbins K1TTT
> e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
> web: http://www.k1ttt.net
> AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Pete Smith [mailto:n4zr@contesting.com]
>> Sent: Friday, December 17, 2010 19:54
>> To: Tree
>> Cc: topband@contesting.com; cq-contest@contesting.com
>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Topband: Rule Six in the Stew Perry
>>
>> The rule now says, in part, "Remote receiving sites within the 100 kM
>> are okay. If a networked connected skimmer is within 100 kM of you, go
>> ahead and use it (perhaps that is what is known as a Reverse Beacon
>> Network, but we get very concerned when we see "Network").
>>
>> I am having a hard time understanding why anyone is confused. The
>> Reverse Beacon Network (please note the capital letters) is a network of
>> over 40 receivers (Reverse Beacons) currently, which, using CW Skimmer,
>> are forwarding information on what they they hear to
>> <http://reversebeacon.net>. This information includes call-sign,
>> frequency, a time-stamp, signal-to-noise ratio at the time of reporting,
>> and CW speed. All of this information, from all of these stations. is
>> archived and available for analysis on the web site, as well as being
>> displayed in near real time.
>>
>> The RBN also operates a Telnet node at <telnet.reversebeacon.net port
>> 7000> which provides the full spot feed from all currently active
>> Reverse Beacons, through a DXSpider node, to any individual or node who
>> wants to connect. We have left the duplicate spots in - many stations
>> will be spotted near-simultaneously - but fortunately VE7CC's CC User
>> and K1TTT's WintelnetX are already available and do an excellent job of
>> filtering duplicate spots if placed between the RBN Telnet node and the
>> logging program. This helps to reduce the fire-hose of spots to
>> something reasonable, particularly if combined with other spot filtering
>> by origin.
>>
>> The point is, if the Stew Perry sponsors are concerned about traditional
>> DX spotting, they should be roughly ten times as concerned about the use
>> of the RBN in their contest, because the RBN spots conservatively 10
>> times as many stations as the conventional, human-intermediated spotting
>> process. The simplest thing, then is simply to lump the RBN with
>> traditional spotting as prohibited, and move on. There's a lot more
>> information on the RBN at our blog, <http://
>> reversebeacon.blogspot.com>, and on the website.
>>
>> When you're done with the contest, go to the RBN web site. The signal
>> analysis tool offers graphical display of comparative signal strengths
>> over time, and you'll be able to see how your signal on 160 compared
>> with others on the band at RBN receivers across the United States,
>> Europe, and other continents.
>>
>> 73, Pete N4ZR
>>
>> The World Contest Station Database, updated daily at
>> www.conteststations.com
>> The Reverse Beacon Network at http://reversebeacon.net, blog at
>> reversebeacon.blogspot.com,
>> spots at telnet.reversebeacon.net, port 7000
>>
>>
>>
>> On 12/17/2010 1:40 PM, Tree wrote:
>> > The Boring Amateur Radio Club has noted the chatter on the interweb
>> about
>> > Rule Six. We are sorry that the recent rule changes has created
>> confusion.
>> >
>> > We have attempted to update the rule to take new technology into
>> account,
>> > and also provide some information about the "intent" of the rules which
>> > might help.
>> >
>> > Hopefully, this will clear up the current confusion. You can read it
>> here:
>> >
>> > http://jzap.com/k7rat/stew.rules.txt
>> >
>> > Hope to work you in the contest this weekend.
>> >
>> > 73 Tree N6TR
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>> >
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