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Re: [CQ-Contest] RDXC updated FAQ - Remote operation

To: <kzerohb@gmail.com>, "'Paul O'Kane'" <pokane@ei5di.com>, <CQ-Contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] RDXC updated FAQ - Remote operation
From: "John Langdon" <jlangdon@outer.net>
Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 08:04:57 -0600
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Perhaps we should also ban logging software as " something other than
amateur radio contesting"?

73 John N5CQ

-----Original Message-----
From: cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com
[mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of kzerohb@gmail.com
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 9:19 PM
To: Paul O'Kane; CQ-Contest@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] RDXC updated FAQ - Remote operation

Paul,

As long as all his transmitters, receivers, and antenna are inside the 
500-meter circle, why do we care how long his mike cord is?  Remote control 
is perfectly legal, at least under FCC jurisdiction, and gives no particular

advantage (other than maybe more comfortable seating) over a person with 
actual fingers on the knobs.  In fact we probably could make a persuasive 
case that the remote operator is disadvantaged by "path lag" in the 
controlpoint-to-station link.

If the rules don't prohibit this configuration, your "kind of cheating" 
notion has a distinct Luddite ring to it.

73, de Hans, K0HB/K7
"Just a boy and his radio"

-----Original Message----- 
From: Paul O'Kane
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 5:21 PM
To: CQ-Contest@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] RDXC updated FAQ - Remote operation

On 25/02/2011 13:35, Mats Strandberg wrote:

> What makes a possible Remote Operation via the Web a "kind of cheating for
> competition" ?

It's simple.  Without the internet, you could not have
a single "QSO".  You are 100% dependent on the internet,
a commercial wired communications technology - how could
it be anything other than a kind of cheating?


> All my transmission and receiving takes place from the only QTH I can
> operate from. No web is used to have an additional reception or 
> transmission
> point than this QTH. I just extend my microphone or keyer cables, as well 
> as
> the earphone cable,

Then just extend your microphone, keyer and earphone
cables for 100 km, and let us know how many QSOs you
have.  Remote control is different - that's why it's
called remote control.


  100 km from my cozy heated apartment, instead of forcing
> myself to sit in sub-zero inside temperatures in my uninsulated 
> summerhouse.

This is the "I'm special" argument - I have lots of
"problems" and cannot reasonably be expected to abide
by the rules.


> Remote operation from ONE (1) QTH, with all antennas and transmitter 
> within
> the 500 meter maximum distance, is according to my interpretation the same
> as travelling 100 km, walking in meter-high snow, sitting in subzero
> temperatures and working the same contest...

This interpretation is flawed.  We're talking about
amateur radio contesting, and you want to use the
internet to replace RF in the signal path between you
and the other operators.   What you're proposing is
something other than amateur radio contesting.

73,
Paul EI5DI






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