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Re: [CQ-Contest] Unauthorized Posts on DX Cluster are NOT KY1V

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Unauthorized Posts on DX Cluster are NOT KY1V
From: Joe <nss@mwt.net>
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 10:27:00 -0500
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yeah  but whats me wb9sbd to stop me from signing up as k9mf ?

the e mail systems doesn't know I am not him,


Joe WB9SBD

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On 4/26/2011 8:41 AM, Rudy Bakalov wrote:
> Since the objective is wide adoption then the simpler the user verification=
>   process the better.=A0 One solution is to simply verify the email of the p=
> erson signing up for the cluster by asking a confirmation URL, PIN code, et=
> c. just like the registration process required to subscribe to this reflect=
> or.
>
> Rudy N2WQ
> --- On Mon, 4/25/11, David Kopacz<david.kopacz@aspwebhosting.com>  wrote:
>
> From: David Kopacz<david.kopacz@aspwebhosting.com>
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Unauthorized Posts on DX Cluster are NOT KY1V
> To: CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> Date: Monday, April 25, 2011, 6:03 PM
>
> If the guys that write the DX Cluster software are willing to modify it to 
> include registration and authentication, I will volunteer to host the 
> database that supports it free of charge. I am sure there are a few others 
> out there that would be willing to host a replicated database in other 
> regions around the world so we have a system that is secure, scalable and 
> available 24/7/365.
>
> Individual cluster operators would be held accountable for regulating the 
> abuses through their system, including web access, and isolated if they don't 
> take action against those abusing through their node(s).
>
> It would take some collaboration to design the system. The most difficult 
> part would be verification of users. With registration, authentications and 
> verification (license), abuses could be isolated by IP addresses to narrow 
> down and eventually catch/eliminate the few bad apples.
>
> Registration could be as simple as creating a username and password attached 
> to your call sign. Photocopies of each amateur's license could be uploaded to 
> the server for verification purposes. The system could start on the honor 
> system so as not to burden anyone person or group with the verification 
> process and leave it to the database administrators/hosts/leagues/clubs/etc 
> to isolate and disable access to abusive users.
>
> It's an idea, but I think without the software developers of clusters getting 
> on board first, it's a dead idea.
>
> In the mean time, know that I don't participate in cluster use unless I am in 
> a contest. I'm old school, I like to tune the dial.
>
> David ~ KY1V
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com 
> [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Chandler
> Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 6:52 AM
> To: CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Unauthorized Posts on DX Cluster are NOT KY1V
>
> I agree completely.  The whole issue of bad spots (for whatever reasons...
> cheerleading, bragging, begging, or the gamut of malicious intent) degrades
> what should be a prime resource for DX'ers and contesters.
>
> Is there an alternative?  Is there some software that a DX/contest club
> could fire up to create their own local secure cluster, with provisions to
> only link to other, also-secure clusters?
>
> I haven't heard of any.  Perhaps all we are waiting for is an alternative
> choice?  I know nothing of how hard a job that would be, but somebody
> somewhere must be itching for a project that will truly make a difference to
> our community.
>
> 73 de Chuck, WS1L
>
> On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 1:19 PM, Luc PY8AZT<py8azt@dxbrasil.net>  wrote:
>
>> Clap, clap, clarp.
>>
>> It´s time to make our network secure, DXCluster included!
>> Or more and more abuses will come alive making the DXCluster less and
>> less useful.
>>
>> 73, Luc
>> __
>> PW7T Team member
>> WRTC.2010 Brazilian Team Leader
>> PY8AZT (also PT7AG, PX8C, ZZ8Z, ZY7C)
>> LABRE, ARRL, CWJF&  Fortaleza DX Group Member
>>
>> 2011/4/24 David Kopacz<david.kopacz@aspwebhosting.com>:
>>> I have received a number of recent emails regarding comments made via
>>> the DX Cluster using my call sign KY1V.
>>>
>>> I would like to "clear the air" regarding these posts on the cluster.
>>>
>>> =================================================
>>> THESE COMMENTS ARE NOT MINE. I DID NOT MAKE THEM.
>>> =================================================
>>>
>>> I DO NOT post comments on the DX Cluster about people. In fact, I have
>>> rarely posted to the DX Cluster. I don't even post during contests. I
>>> almost exclusively use the cluster to receive spots while contesting.
>>>
>> snip
>>> Until such time as the Amateur Radio community decides that they will no
>>> longer tolerate such abuse and refuse to participate in using an
>>> unsecured system that allows such blatant abuses to continue, the
>>> problem will likely continue endlessly.
>>>
>>> It doesn't have to be this way. Isn't it time for a change?
>>>
>>> I hope to get back into radio soon, until then, happy DX'ing and
>>> contesting.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>>
>>> David ~ KY1V
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