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[CQ-Contest] Will Skimmer hear me?

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Subject: [CQ-Contest] Will Skimmer hear me?
From: W0MU Mike Fatchett <w0mu@w0mu.com>
Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 17:02:48 -0600
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Head to the Skimmer reflector or the RBN site.

If you can work people then sure the skimmers can pick you up.  They are 
all over the world.  If you nestle in against a super power you probably 
will get covered in dx locations but you might still be heard by a local 
skimmer or one with different skip.

CQ callsign is what it is looking for.  Or Callsign Test   some 
combination.  You can try it anytime the skimmers are running 24x7x365 
for our operating enjoyment.  Because of dupe checking you will need to 
move about 20 kcs and try again if you want to test who hears you.

Go to Reversebeacon.net for more info.

Mike W0MU

W0MU-1 CC Cluster w0mu.net:23 or w0mu-1.dnsdynamic.com

On 5/31/2012 1:56 PM, w5ov@w5ov.com wrote:
> Hank,
> If you enter the contest as assisted, then by all means go ahead and
> access the RBN all you like along with all other forms of assistance.
> If you're not assisted, then don't be tempted to look at that stuff.
> I don't know the answer to your questions about signal levels and so
> forth, but I would presume that the likelihood of being heard decreases if
> you're QRP. There are also some patterns in what you send that these
> devices look for to identify a signal as one calling CQ. If you want to
> know more about this stuff, I'm sure one of the RBN experts will point you
> in the right direction.
> 73,
> Bob W5OV
>> So, during a contest, if I call CQ every so often in an attempt to
>> "run", with marginal to N1L results, is it okay to check whether my call
>> shows up on the RBN when I'm in a "off" period, R&R, etc.  Or should I
>> specify "assisted?"  In the search I "mycall" - no others.  I use the
>> info only to confirm or refute my impression of the results I've been
>> obtaining from my attempts at "runs."
>> Another question, when there's a cacophony of S9+99 signals being heard
>> by the Skimmers on the RBN, like in an international DX contest, will a
>> pipsquoke signal from my mighty 5 Watts to a cloud warmer antenna be
>> harder to be heard by these Skimmers?  In other words, does the "overall
>> level of incoming signals" lower the threshold at which a very weak
>> signal can be heard?
>> After the recent CQWPX was over, I checked for my call, I knew I tried
>> calling CQ for as long as 10 minutes repetitively, but was heard only a
>> couple times by the RBN skimmers.  Yet, I was working stations from
>> various parts of the world - many with no problems hearing me - but>95%
>> while I was S&P.
>> Just curious.
>> 73 de n8xx Hg
>> Operated WQ8RP during WPX 2012
>> On 5/31/2012 1:47 PM, cq-contest-request@contesting.com wrote:
>>> Message: 2
>>> Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 09:07:47 -0500
>>> From: K0HB<kzerohb@gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Assisted or not assisted question (yet again)
>>> To: Bob Naumann<W5OV@W5OV.COM>
>>> Cc: David Gilbert<xdavid@cis-broadband.com>,
>>>     "<cq-contest@contesting.com>"<cq-contest@contesting.com>
>>> Message-ID:<178691E3-A081-4B78-B632-B06730F73A7A@gmail.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain;   charset=us-ascii
>>> I was trying (maybe not well) to point out that SCP isn't very different
>>> from other assistance except for the quality of immediacy.
>>> 73, Hans
>>> On May 31, 2012, at 8:44 AM, "Bob Naumann"<W5OV@W5OV.COM>   wrote:
>>>> Hans,
>>>> I'm afraid you've missed the point.
>>>> "Other forms of assistance such as packet" are specifically precluded
>>>> by the rules for single ops already.
>>>> So, there is no debate about whether packet (and all of the various
>>>> forms of spotting networks) should be considered assistance. It already
>>>> is.
>>>> -Bob
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: K0HB [mailto:kzerohb@gmail.com]
>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 8:36 AM
>>>> To: Bob Naumann
>>>> Cc: David Gilbert;<cq-contest@contesting.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Assisted or not assisted question (yet again)
>>>> Bob, every point you make, other than the "real time" issue, could be
>>>> made at some level for other forms of assistance such as packet.
>>>> (and on slow packet days....)
>>>> 73, de Hans, K0HB
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