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Re: [CQ-Contest] authentication for log submission

To: Zack Widup <w9sz.zack@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] authentication for log submission
From: Mirko S57AD <miroslav.sibilja@amis.net>
Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 16:17:09 +0200
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I don't know for other sponsors, in EUHFC & SCC RTTY contests, sponsored by
SCC, if someone submits a log a second time, it wipes out the earlier log.

73  Mirko, S57AD

2012/6/5 Zack Widup <w9sz.zack@gmail.com>

> Are you saying that someone can get hold of another station's log
> after it has been submitted and tamper with it? If that's the case,
> then the security needs to be placed on the computer where the logs
> are stored by the contest sponsor.
>
> I don't know how e-mailed logs are handled; if someone submits a log a
> second time, does it wipe out the earlier log stored in the sponsor's
> files, or are both kept?
>
> If someone just fabricated a log, it seems it would be pretty obvious
> on log checking.
>
> Also, an examination of the header of the e-mail file should show
> where the log came from.
>
> 73, Zack W9SZ
>
>
> On 6/4/12, Katsuhiro Kondou <kondou@voyackey.net> wrote:
> > Change the subject from the original, and removed related References
> > headers.
> >
> > In article <4FCC7194.3080802@ei5di.com>,
> >       "Paul O'Kane" <pokane@ei5di.com> wrote,
> >       on "Mon, 04 Jun 2012 09:28:04 +0100";
> >
> > } In the days of paper logs, we had to submit a signed
> > } declaration with each log.  With electronic logs, the
> > } declaration is assumed, but largely forgotten.  One
> > } practical solution is for the logging software to
> > } display the declaration and ask for the operator's
> > } agreement, by having to type the word YES, before the
> > } Cabrillo log is created.
> > }
> > } The declaration, in effect a pledge that is renewed
> > } with each entry, is good enough for me.
> >
> > I'm not sure this was discussed before, but this reminds me that
> > someone who has malicious intention may submit other station's
> > log to defeat the station after first submission by actual station.
> > There looks no authentication method to verify the station for major
> > contests(please correct me if I am wrong).  Complicated method to
> > authenticate the station may lead decreasing the number of log
> > submission, so this may not be applied to all stations.  But I think
> > there should be some method to authenticate at least for stations who
> > want to win a prize.
> >
> > Please ignore this message if my concern is baseless fear, the
> > contest sponsors have already taken care of this, or we can trust
> > everybody since we all have good morals.
> > --
> > Katsuhiro "Don" Kondou, JH5GHM
> > Tokyo, JAPAN
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