Ron, you misunderstood my message. Jim said he *did not want* to be
spotted by Skimmers, so I was simply observing that so long as he
followed his past practices, he would not be spotted very often. He
says he doesn't want Skimmer pileups, and he doesn't have to change
anything to limit them.
As for the loss of QSOs, if he's trying to win, then it's his loss too.
I think that the RBN has probably contributed to a useful net increase
in the number of QSOs during the major contests, and it's hard to see
why this rising trend doesn't benefit everyone.
73, Pete N4ZR
The World Contest Station Database, at www.conteststations.com
The Reverse Beacon Network at http://reversebeacon.net, blog at
reversebeacon.blogspot.com,
spots at telnet.reversebeacon.net, port 7000 and
arcluster.reversebeacon.net, port 7000
On 8/12/2012 11:21 AM, Ron Notarius W3WN wrote:
> That's a pretty condescending tone Pete. I don't think Jim deserved that.
>
> So what are you trying to say? That Jim has to change his operating style
> to accommodate RBN/Skimmer technology?
>
> Because it seems to me that IF he's losing out on QSOs from those that rely
> only on or primarily on the RBN/Skimmer spotting system... that's their
> loss, not his.
>
> 73
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com
> [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Pete Smith N4ZR
> Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 6:19 AM
> To: Timothy Coker
> Cc: Jim Neiger; CQ Contest
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Reverse Beacon Network News - hopefully
> ofgeneralinterest
>
> Good point, Tim. In fact, there's another easy way. If you don't want
> to be spotted by Skimmers, don't send CQ or TEST or "UP x", because
> these are three triggers that will tell Skimmer that you're running. If
> I recall N6TJ's normal practice at ZD8Z, he won't be spotted after he
> moves to a frequency anyway, because the only thing he sends between
> QSOs is his callsign. Of course, he'll miss out on some percentage of
> QSOs with casual ops, but everything has a price.
>
> 73, Pete N4ZR
> The World Contest Station Database, at www.conteststations.com
> The Reverse Beacon Network at http://reversebeacon.net, blog at
> reversebeacon.blogspot.com,
> spots at telnet.reversebeacon.net, port 7000 and
> arcluster.reversebeacon.net, port 7000
>
> On 8/11/2012 3:09 PM, Timothy Coker wrote:
>> Everyone has different operating preferences and preferences on whether or
>> not they should be spotted. If anyone doesn't want my skimmer to spot them
>> then a simple email to me with your call sign to be used can easily be
>> added to the blacklist on my server so that my equipment doesn't spot you.
>>
>> I personally like skimmer servers (pretty obvious since I own a server)
> but
>> I also understand that poor operating practices by some individuals
>> utilizing the servers output can really create a mess in a hurry. However,
>> good operating techniques, listening, etc. is, in my opinion, the answer
>> for those who choose to play assisted or at a multi-op. No difference
> there
>> when compared to when one plays unassisted. It's poor operating practices
>> that create the mess... the spot just leads the poor operator(s) to the
>> station running as it also leads some of the good assisted operators to
> the
>> station running.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Tim / N6WIN
>>
>> http://www.n6win.com
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 10:45 AM, Jim Neiger <n6tj@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Indeed. Let's make sure everyone in the pile-ups are calling on exactly
>>> the
>>> SAME FREQUENCY !! That will undoubtedly help our rates, and the number
>>> that
>>> ultimately make it into the log.
>>> Packet was bad enough. Your skimmer is a night-mare.
>>>
>>> Jim Neiger N6TJ
>>>
>>> p.s. I will be listening up 2 to 5 from 9Y4W in November. Pete, please
>>> call me exactly on my frequency; that will help clear out the pile-up
>>> above.
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> From: "Pete Smith N4ZR" <n4zr@contesting.com>
>>> Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 5:49 AM
>>> To: "CQ Contest" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
>>> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Reverse Beacon Network News - hopefully of
>>> generalinterest
>>>
>>>> We've just fielded the latest release of the Aggregator - the software
>>>> that forwards spots from RBN contributors' CW Skimmers to the RBN web
>>>> server.
>>>>
>>>> I normally wouldn't announce this on a general forum like this, but the
>>>> new Aggregator has one important breakthrough feature. Each connected
>>>> Aggregator now receives a report every 5 minutes indicating how its
>>>> receiver's frequency calibration is. This should be an important aid to
>>>> keeping the frequency calibration of RBN spots as good, we hope, as the
>>>> callsign accuracy. Please let us know what you think.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> 73, Pete N4ZR
>>>> The World Contest Station Database, at www.conteststations.com
>>>> The Reverse Beacon Network at http://reversebeacon.net, blog at
>>>> reversebeacon.blogspot.com,
>>>> spots at telnet.reversebeacon.net, port 7000 and
>>>> arcluster.reversebeacon.net, port 7000
>>>>
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