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Re: [CQ-Contest] Finally - self spotting has become a mute point!

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Finally - self spotting has become a mute point!
From: Mike Reublin <nf4l@nf4l.com>
Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2013 18:21:48 -0500
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Some things are hard to bare.

Mike NF4L

On Feb 23, 2013, at 9:28 AM, Tod Olson <tod@k0to.us> wrote:

> If  this thread were a 'mute' point we would not see it.
> 
> I don't know when and where the thread started, but I am sure that the
> originator meant to write "moot" and not "mute" and somehow their spell
> checker 'improved' the text and substituted "mute" for the intended 'moot'.
> 
> Such an error could only be made by a machine; real people would never allow
> that error to creep in.
> 
> Tod, K0TO
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 2/22/13 7:54 PM, "Robert Chudek - K0RC" <k0rc@citlink.net> wrote:
> 
>> Probably (or as the young kids now say) 'Prolly' for the same reason
>> locals would pick up the phone and call others to alert them about a new
>> one that was on the air. Of course, this was prior to packet radio. Then
>> there were the DX spotting voice repeaters, which gave way to the packet
>> system that could receive and collect 'spots' even while you were still
>> at work.
>> 
>> Just a few days ago I was pining that I really missed the hand crank
>> when I came out and found the battery was dead in my car!
>> 
>> 73 de Bob - KØRC in MN
>> 
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> On 2/22/2013 7:00 PM, Radio K0HB wrote:
>>> The bigger question is why would anyone spot anyone except themselves?
>>> 
>>> Nyuk, nyuk, nyuk.
>>> 
>>> 73, Hans, K0HB/4ID
>>> 
>>> On Thursday, February 21, 2013, Robert Chudek - K0RC wrote:
>>> 
>>>     It was about 3-1/2 years ago I asked the question below, on this
>>>     reflector. The third full paragraph contains the core concept I
>>>     was asking / proposing. It didn't take too long for the technology
>>>     to 'change the game plan' once again! Yes, I'm gloating! Nyuk,
>>>     nyuk, nyuk...  :-)
>>> 
>>>     Regarding those people objecting that the RBN isn't delivering a
>>>     pristine stream of data, my opinion is that the existing level of
>>>     accuracy is more than adequate. For example, K3LR pops up on my
>>>     bandmap and I work him. His call sign turns gray, letting me know
>>>     I have already worked him.
>>> 
>>>     Five minutes later, EK3LR pops up on the bandmap. Funny thing is
>>>     that EK3LR is sitting right on the same frequency as the K3LR I
>>>     already worked. My eyes and brain tells me instantaneously it's a
>>>     bust. I don't waste time removing it from the bandmap because I
>>>     know it's going to pop back up there again anyway. Cleaning the
>>>     bandmap is a waste of contesting time.
>>> 
>>>     Now if there was only a way to eliminate the clueless from
>>>     pointing and clicking their way to the elusive EK3 multiplier and
>>>     causing havoc on the K3LR run frequency. (Or substitute any of the
>>>     other traditionally busted spots; BY vs. 6Y, 5K vs. HK, etc. Oh
>>>     and MY personal favorite KØRF vs. KØRC.)
>>> 
>>>     73 de Bob - KØRC in MN
>>> 
>>>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> 
>>>         /  -----Original Message-----/
>>>         /  From: Robert Chudek - K0RC [mailto:k0rc@citlink.net]/
>>>         /  Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 02:18/
>>>         /  To: cq-contest@contesting.com/
>>>         <http://cq-contest@contesting.com/>
>>>         /  Subject: [CQ-Contest] Self spotting rationale/
>>>         /  /
>>>         /  This isn't a rhetorical question./
>>>         /  /
>>>         /  How / why was the "no self spotting" rule created in the
>>>         first place? Was/
>>>         /  it a knee-jerk reaction to the introduction of new
>>>         technology at the time/
>>>         /  spotting networks began to flourish? What actual purpose
>>>         does this rule/
>>>         /  serve? Whatever that purpose, is it outdated by technology?/
>>>         /  /
>>>         /  The use of the spotting networks automatically classifies a
>>>         participant as/
>>>         /  "assisted" in the first place. To the non-assisted
>>>         participants, why would/
>>>         /  they care whether stations were self-spotting or not? When
>>>         I operate in/
>>>         /  the non-assisted category I don't care what is going on
>>>         with the spotting/
>>>         /  network./
>>>         /  /
>>>         /  To the participants in the "assisted" category, why not let
>>>         them spot/
>>>         /  their brains out? Other than saturating the spotting
>>>         network I don't see a/
>>>         /  down-side to this. If an assisted station spotted
>>>         themselves once every X/
>>>         /  minutes, many things would "fall into place."/
>>>         /  /
>>>         /  First, there would be fewer busted calls being spotted.
>>>         Second, assisted/
>>>         /  operators would know which bands were being used by the
>>>         self spotter (are/
>>>         /  they operating 10 meters right now or not?). Third, self
>>>         spotting timers/
>>>         /  could evolve in contest software to spot on a predetermined
>>>         schedule./
>>>         /  Fourth, David's spotting reports would not be necessary to
>>>         see who was/
>>>         /  breaking the rules. Fifth, I wouldn't have to worry whether
>>>         my call would/
>>>         /  appear on a report as "helping my team mates in our contest
>>>         club" when I/
>>>         /  spot the members. (I have basically quit spotting anyone
>>>         compared to the/
>>>         /  early days of the spotting network.)/
>>>         /  /
>>>         /  I can only imagine if Wal-Mart, Target, and K-Mart were not
>>>         allowed to/
>>>         /  advertise their stores were open for business and what
>>>         times you would/
>>>         /  find them open. I think the "no self spotting" rule is absurd./
>>>         /  /
>>>         /  73 de Bob - KØRC in MN
>>> 
>>> 
>>>     /
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> 73, de Hans, K0HB
>>> "Just a boy and his radio"
>>> --
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>>> Superstition trails ---> http://OldSlowHans.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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