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Re: [CQ-Contest] CQWW Survey - my comment

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CQWW Survey - my comment
From: Scott Monks <cq_dx_de_aa0aa@yahoo.com>
Reply-to: Scott Monks <cq_dx_de_aa0aa@yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 08:26:26 -0700 (PDT)
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Glenn, you exactly expressed my feelings, though I had never put them to 
words!  From my qth I cannot compete with anyone (except maybe the guy loading 
a wet noodle! hi, hi) but I enjoy getting in a giving points when I am in 
Mexico as XE1/AA0AA.  I often use the cluster to help me sort out stations 
(much qrm and qrn here)more quickly and help log the right one.  However, I 
almost never send in any logs--just doing it for fun--and often don't even log 
the exchange info.  Maybe I should follow your example and submit the logs even 
if only as checks to help out the process.
73, Scott




>________________________________
>Glenn,
>
>Please do carry on, cluster or not!  And don't forget the upcoming  Florida 
>QSO Party on April 26 & 27.  We are expecting those terrific  QSOs from you 
>in each county!
>
>73, George & Jim, K4KG/m in the FQP
>
>Pse excuse this cheap advertisement for the FQP!
>
>George  Wagner, K5KG
>Sarasota, FL 
>941-400-1960 cell  
>
>
>In a message dated 3/19/2013 8:44:19 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
>va3dx@sympatico.ca writes:
>
>I   now realize from the postings on this reflector that
>
>I am not a real  DX'er
>I am not a real contester
>
>The problem is that I casually enter  the contest , I use
>the cluster network, and I generally only make around  1,000
>qsos.. I do submit my logs .. ( as assisted )
>
>I thought that  even my few qsos might promote the contest,
>I never thought that my efforts  would be regarded as those
>of an inferior ham , ( just because the cluster  was on here ).
>
>Recent postings have convinced me , that running  assisted is
>regarded as a undesireable in the contesting genre. Until I  dump
>the cluster I will never gain any respect from the so-called
>elite  members of the non-assisted club.
>
>Nevertheless I will carry on ,  enjoying the hobby in my way,
>even though I will be a Cluster scumbag in  some folks views.
>
>Glenn VA3DX
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>From: "JIM  NEIGER"  Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CQWW Survey
>
>
>> With all  due respect, one might reasonably ask as to why such an asinine 
>>  survey is even contemplated if someone did not already have a canned a  
>> priori  result in mind and seeking a one size fits all  solution.
>>
>> If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, walks  like a 
>> duck..................it's probably a duck.
>>
>> If  one sincerely wanted to improve the CQ WW and CQ WPX contests, they 
>>  would address the abhorrent 1 point 2 point 3 point dance that's a 
>>  throwback to AM phone, no transceive on CW, no SSB, contesting years.  
>(I  
>> remember, I was there).  Solving that would truly open-up  DXpeditions to 
>> the Caribbean Islands and re-ignite JA and middle east  Asia enthusiasm. 
>> (Shame on me to actually suggest something that  might be a plus to 
>contest 
>> activity and real DXing, rather than  having to rely on someone else to 
>> find your DX for you and copy their  call for you.)
>>
>> Another way to go back to real men operating  skills, let's convert  
>these 
>> contests into the NA SPRINT format  -- for 48 hours.  You call CQ, you 
>give 
>> up your frequency and  QSY at least 5 kcs. before the next CQ.   I don't 
>> think  packet, skimmer and RBN crutches will do too well in that format 
>and 
>>  if the goal here is solely to eliminate packet cheaters, umm, I think 
>that  
>> might work.   Anyone here ready to MAN-UP for something  like this?
>>
>> So very sadly, today's Generation X has no clue on  how to operate, and 
>it 
>> shows.  Oh boy, skimmer.  Let's see  how good ZD8LID really  is:  we will 
>> all be S-5 and zero  beat on his signal.  Good luck on getting ZD8LID 
>> active in your  next contest.  But hey, look at all the new "operators" 
>> we've  brought into contesting.  Oh boy..............
>>
>> Sadly,  what my classmate @ NYU opined fifty years ago:  "If you don't 
>have  
>> enough on the ball, get a smaller ball" has become the  reality.
>>
>> Vy 73,
>>
>> Jim Neiger  N6TJ   ZD8LID
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message----- 
>> From:  K1AR@aol.com
>> Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 2:05 PM
>> To:  cq-contest@contesting.com
>> Subject: [CQ-Contest] CQWW  Survey
>>
>> To members of the Bruised Egos & Assisted Sucks  Club,
>>
>> A few facts:
>>
>> 1) The distribution of the  CQWW survey did not include a devious strategy
>> to exclude you. Randy  used the WW email list from his received logs
>> database.  Advice:  Stop whining, get over yourself, take a breath and 
>just 
>>  answer
>> the  #$*&%% survey if it still bothers you. Many, many  thousands have 
>been
>> received so far. This channel feels like the  Geritol Net at times. Any 
>> other
>> check-ins? Call  now...
>>
>> 2) It is a major leap of faith to assume a rules  decision has already 
>been
>> made because someone asks a question in a  single survey. After taking the
>> recommended breath above, please take  another one.
>>
>> W2LC mentioned that very few new contesters read  this site. Frankly, I
>> don't blame them based on what I've been reading  of late. It's just a 
>> concept,
>> but how about posting some  useful information about contesting  -- maybe
>> just once in a  while?
>>
>> 73, John, K1AR
>> Your friendly  co-moderator
>>
>>
>>
>>
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