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Re: [CQ-Contest] When is speed not speedy?

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] When is speed not speedy?
From: Joe <nss@mwt.net>
Date: Thu, 30 May 2013 19:13:29 -0500
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other than the zero and nine if the person uses cut numbers they loose my contact. I hate them, so just don't work anyone using them. Or maybe I will next time just keep asking for repeats until i get actual numbers.
Joe WB9SBD
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On 5/30/2013 5:55 PM, Georgek5kg@aol.com wrote:
John,
The worst example of a serial number using cut numbers happened to me twice
  in WPX.  I worked two different stations that sent four digit serial
numbers ending in 50. Using a cut number for the "zero", the two different
stations sent -- at a very high speed -- dit dit dit dit dit  dah.  I  copied
this as a 4, but I knew instinctively that something didn't  feel right
because of the extra space before the  ending dah.  I had to ask for many 
repeats
before I finally got  it!
BTW, I can easily copy something north of 40 wpm, so this was not a case
where the speed was over my head.  What was over my head was the cut  number
for the "zero" a number 5.
My impression at the time was that these speed demon whiz kids using their
fancy-schmancy cut numbers had just wasted a bunch of my  time!
73, Geo... George Wagner, K5KG
Sarasota, FL
941-400-1960 cell

In a message dated 5/30/2013 6:29:12 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
john@kk9a.com writes:

I think  if you are calling CQ at 20 wpm people should answer you at that
speed. If  they call you at a much higher speed it is just rude. If you
call someone,  they assume that you were already able to copy their
callsign and that you  would be able to copy the report and recognize your
callsign at their  speed. You probably already heard the report that they
gave to the station  before you so you should already have some idea what
to expect. I think it  is unrealistic to expect a running station to match
the speed of every  caller.

I also do not like cut numbers when I am expecting a serial  number,
especially when it is sent as a mixture of real numbers and cut  ones. Many
logging programs will make the conversion if you type the  appropriate
letter.

John, P40A last weekend



To:   CQ-Contest Reflector  <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject:[CQ-Contest] When is speed not  speedy?
From:    Charles Harpole  <hs0zcw@gmail.com>
Date:    Mon, 27 May 2013 19:35:27  +0700

When is high speed CW not speedy?
Answer, when sending to me  well beyond my SENDING SPEED of 20 WPM.  I
worked the whole contest at  20wpm sending and rcving (I can do that speed
well and remember when it was  considered fast?), lots as H&P so the other
station already knew my  speed because I called him at 20.

He sends four numeral S.N. at 40wpm,  so I have to ask for THREE repeats,
one for each of the last three  numerals.  If, like good ops of old, he just
came down to 20, no  repeats and no delays and no cursing me under his
breath.

I guess  some programs are difficult to adjust speed or maybe "real"
contesters are  just arrogant???   My radios have a speed knob right  on
front.

I bet that without RBN and code readers, the speed demons  would not be able
to run like that.   BTW, by sending 5NN at  70wpm followed by the SN at 40
keeps even the smartest code readers missing  the first few numbers as it
re-times from 70 down to 40.

I copied  the "cut numbers" as letters and plan to send in a log that way.
When will  ops begin to use cut numbers inside their call signs too?... I
used E2E,  and guess I could have signed EAE.
Also, when my friend can win his  category for Asia and not know code,
really, something is wrong with  contesting and respect for and satisfaction
with human  achievement.

Oh, have my smart phone tell me when the next contest is  over and how my
new, 80wpm, fully automated station did in  scores.   73,

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