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Re: [CQ-Contest] Why?

To: "Mirko S57AD" <miroslav.sibilja@amis.net>, <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Why?
From: "Larry" <lknain@nc.rr.com>
Reply-to: Larry <w6nws@arrl.net>
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 07:59:46 -0500
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There are a very few that are really good at that sort of thing (I wish that I 
could do it). I can usually tell if the station is one those kind of operators. 
But most do not distinguish that scenario and so will call and call and ....  

RTTY can do the “NOW W7AAA ...” scenario because you can often see multiple 
calls on the screen and the logger can line them up for you.

(W7AAA was arbitrary so apologies to him/her for using the call.)

73, Larry  W6NWS

From: Mirko S57AD 
Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 4:06 AM
To: Larry 
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Why?

Larry, it happened to me several times during the contest that I coppied two or 
even three calls at once. I answered to one (usually stronger one) and 
continued with second one, OK2QX TU W3PP 5NN A5.  Not neccessary that W7AAA (in 
case you mentioned) called in in the course of QSO. Maybe DX station coppied 
both calls (LU5DX, W7AAA) at once... 


73,  Mirko, S57AD (@ S59DKR in CQWW)




2013/11/27 Larry <lknain@nc.rr.com>

  I suspect people do it because it can work.

  I have heard DX stations lecture the pile about not calling while working 
someone. So then a QSO ends "LU5DX TU W7AAA 599.." which means the DX station 
was copying other calls. Thus, one could conclude that I should call during the 
QSO so the DX station will hear my call and call me next. But the other 
stations listening often figure out the scheme and call too. Chaos. Of course, 
if it was "LU5DX TU YU5DX 599..." I can understand in that you both have very 
similar calls. It is not usually that close.

  I don't think I have heard as belligerent case as your DL8 over the DK5. Many 
stations will easily cave and work the DL8 and the poor DK5 may not get worked 
after all. Once working the DL8 after having called the DK5 then it can 
degenerate into a calling mess. (After all, how can you not hear me? I am 599 
and clear in my headphones!)  It can be hard sticking to what you call because 
it can kill your rate but there are ops that do it (I forget who but there were 
at least a couple heard this past weekend - a 5H and 5R I think). Trying to 
regroup if I heard DK5 and it wasn't actually DK5 can be interesting because 
that can open up the calling again.

  73, Larry  W6NWS

  -----Original Message----- From: Martin , LU5DX
  Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 11:53 AM
  To: Ron Notarius W3WN
  Cc: CQ-Contest
  Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Why?

  Super weird things happened. Compulsive calling is spreading like a decease!
  But not only that. There is now bullying calling.

  In the middle of an unruly pile up some DK5 called in. I copied his full
  call at once and came back to him with ENNA2.
  There was this other DL8 also calling and he simply continued to call after
  I came back to the DK5.
  He was so strong I was not able to copy the exchange being sent by the DK5.
  No ony that. The DL8 said I'm not DK5... I'm DL8.....
  So no way out but to stop the pile  and asked the DL8 why he was that LID!!
  And he insisted I'm not DK5... And I said. I know you are not, I'm working
  someone else and I'm not working you for sure, so please QSY.
  Really bad operating manners were mostly shown by countries from certain
  countries, but now, it's pandemic!
  Just as in 2012. I had to wait long on big egos to ID (some of them
  repeating their techniques from last year).

  Anyways lots of fun as usual.

  I wonder if the WWROF will take a more proactive approach on all these
  topics.

  Best 73.

  Martin, LU5DX
  Op at CE3CT this past WWCW.


  On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Ron Notarius W3WN <wn3vaw@verizon.net>wrote:


    And of course, we all remember a well know US amateur working in Kuwait,
    who was known to answer partial calls (and other liddish behavior) with
    "you're in the log" instead of a signal report.

    So, someone who called (and called and called ) "FOUR LIMA) and sent a
    card to that station's manager as "W4LID" would be told... he's not in the
    log.  The log showed '4L' but not 'W4LID'

    (apologies to the real W4LID, if any, I simply used that call as an
    example)

    73

    On 11/25/13, Milt -- N5IA wrote:

    Been there; done that. During the CQ 160 SSB 'test I operated as VP6DX from
    Ducie Atoll in February of 2008 there were two prominent "Big Guns" who
    never made it in the log because of their inability to follow instructions
    and kept calling, calling, calling while I was trying to get another call
    sign correct. This went on for HOURS.

    Sad, but true.

    Mis dos centavos,

    de Milt, N5IA


    -----Original Message-----
    From: Joe
    Sent: Monday, November 25, 2013 7:53 AM
    To: cq-contest@contesting.com
    Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Why?

    .... CUT ....

    If i ever had the chance to be at the other end, I'd make a
    list of lid's like this, and make sure they never get worked.

    But Just my own opinion.

    Joe WB9SBD



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