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Re: [CQ-Contest] Contest Teams

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Contest Teams
From: Ward Silver <hwardsil@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2013 09:02:29 -0600
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Whatever the team theme/rules, all on-the-air behavior and all submitted QSO data must to comply with the sponsor's contest rules for the exchange and so forth. Messing up the sponsor's processes would be a Bad Thing and very unwelcome.

Perhaps a self-assigned identifier following the call that complies with all regulations about prefixes would serve to identify the team without corrupting the sponsor's scoring and checking process. For example, maybe add /T### that would be ignored by the prefix-parsing software in favor of the initial prefix (kind of like /P is ignored). ### would be a three-digit team ID, maybe.

Scoring could be done on a post-processing basis from the verified logs but the sponsor would not be responsible for judging the CWAC (contest within a contest).

If the operation violates some criteria such as the all-equipment-within-a-certain-radius rule, logs should be submitted as checklogs.

> What a strategy fest this would be!

Exactly.  Like adding another dimension to the chess board.

73, Ward N0AX

On 12/6/2013 8:41 AM, Gerry Hull wrote:
Like the theme, Ward...

How about this as an outside-the-box simple example of a new contest:

 -Form inter-continental virtual teams
 -intra-team QSOs count zero points
 -rest of scoring matches a current contest type (like Zn/Cty)
 -Exchange would include a team acronym to conform to rules.

What a strategy fest this would be!  First, finding the proper
team members on each continent; which team combinations
would work best based on propagation, etc.   Each continent
has it's own advantages based on TOD and population centers;

This could work well if teams were made up of stations in the same
category.

Food for thought.

73, Gerry W1VE





On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 11:24 AM, Ward Silver <hwardsil@gmail.com <mailto:hwardsil@gmail.com>> wrote:

    Opening up the team competition to be more than just combining
    scores would be very interesting.  The software to allow multiple
    stations to interact as a "distributed multi-multi" already
    exists. Remote multi-operator stations are already
    straightforward, if not easy, as the K4VV team has demonstrated.
     So the idea of multiple operators using multiple stations is
    certainly do-able, although with the demise of the WW X-treme
    category, such operation does not have a "home" in any major
    contest at the moment.

    Here are some possible team scenarios:

    1) Multiple operators using one station via remote links, ala K4VV.
    2) Multiple independent stations networked together for logging,
    ala many IARU HQ operations
    3) Multiple stations with a single operator using remote control
    and networked together
        3a) All stations are single-band throughout the contest
        3b) All stations are multi-band but the team is limited to one
    signal per band
        3c) Combination of single- and multi-band stations plus
    multiplier stations
    4) Receive-only stations added in "partner mode" over the network
    to support transmitting station

    I'm sure this inventive audience will think of many more ways to
    combine multiple operators and multiple stations :-)  Deciding on
    strategies would be challenging - do you optimize by station
    capability, by operator capability, how do you allocate time slots
    between operators and stations, etc etc etc.  I mean, really,
    we've been playing essentially the same game for upwards of 80
    years. Surely there are other useful ways of competing.

    On the second question - why don't we ask them?  I completely
    agree that what they come up with would be unlikely to look all
    that familiar but it would probably be fun.  As long as the
    resulting activity advances radio know-how and operating skill,
    why not?

    73, Ward N0AX

    On 12/3/2013 11:00 AM, cq-contest-request@contesting.com
    <mailto:cq-contest-request@contesting.com> wrote:

        > Or thinking of a team situation, what if you were in a team
        of six, one on
        >each continent, in say a 24 hour contest using traditional
        scoring but you
        >could only operate 4 hours each.  Using instant messaging or
        voice chat to
        >co-ordinate your plans, what tactics would you employ?  Would
        that be fun
        >to try?  Who knows you may even make new friends.
        >
        > (snip)
        >
        >Finally as someone else said how would a bunch of gamers
        design a radio
        >contest?  I suspect quite differently to what we have now.
        >
        >73
        >Mark ZL3AB


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