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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] TO7A debacle
From: K4XS via CQ-Contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>
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Date: Mon, 11 May 2015 11:28:32 -0400
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Oh what a tangled web we weave, when we seek to  deceive.
 
Had he submitted a "clean" log he would have still swept first  place for 
assisted.  Now, his call is being dragged through the mud.   He's a great op, 
too bad.
 
K4XS
 
 
In a message dated 5/11/2015 3:20:51 P.M. Coordinated Universal Time,  
donovanf@starpower.net writes:

OE3V  appears twice in the TO7A log but never in the CN2AA, 9K2HN, K3LR or 
W3LPL  log... 

----- Original Message -----

From: "Braco OE1EMS"  <oe1ems@emssolutions.at> 
To: cq-contest@contesting.com 
Sent:  Monday, May 11, 2015 2:08:37 PM 
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] TO7A debacle  

Wow what a mess..... 

I realy never expected that someone can  do this! 

OE3V is btw callsign which is not QRV so far I know!  

Not sure about assistance but somehow is sad that logger checker  didn’t 
find 
this out! 

73s 
Braco 
E77DX  



-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- 
Von: CQ-Contest  [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] Im Auftrag von 
Valery Petrov  
Gesendet: Montag, 11. Mai 2015 13:58 
An: k5zd@charter.net; 'Dez  Watson'; ea5rs@ono.com; 
cq-contest@contesting.com 
Betreff: Re:  [CQ-Contest] TO7A debacle 

Just statistics: 

From 0434 to 0530:  
30 UNIQUE CALLS WORKED (29 unique on 160, 1 unique on 80)  
---------------------------------------------------------- 
22 of them  are MULTS (!), 
6 of them are DOUBLE MULTS (!!) 

28 of them HAVE NOT  submitted their logs, 2 of them (who submitted logs) 
don't have TO7A in  the log 

QSO: 3585 CW 2014-11-30 0434 TO7A 599 8 Z33Z 599 15  
>>> MULT. Unique on 80. 
QSO: 1830 CW 2014-11-30 0437 TO7A 599  8 W9FML 599 04 
Unique on 160. 
QSO: 1830 CW 2014-11-30 0438 TO7A 599 8  K6NO 599 03 
QSO: 1830 CW 2014-11-30 0439 TO7A 599 8 ON4TO 599 14  
>>> DOUBLE MULT. NOT IN ON4TO LOG! 
QSO: 1830 CW 2014-11-30  0440 TO7A 599 8 OZ1CTK 599 14 
>>> MULT. Unique on 160. 
QSO:  1830 CW 2014-11-30 0441 TO7A 599 8 AC5RN 599 04 
Unique on 160. 
QSO:  1830 CW 2014-11-30 0442 TO7A 599 8 RA3QSY 599 16 
>>> DOUBLE MULT.  Unique on 160. 
QSO: 1830 CW 2014-11-30 0444 TO7A 599 8 G3ZHL 599 14  
>>> MULT. Unique on 160. 
QSO: 1830 CW 2014-11-30 0445 TO7A  599 8 DL7SBV 599 14 
>>> MULT. Unique on 160. 
QSO: 1830 CW  2014-11-30 0446 TO7A 599 8 DL8OK 599 14 
QSO: 1830 CW 2014-11-30 0447 TO7A  599 8 OH3M 599 15 
>>> DOUBLE MULT. Unique on 160. 
QSO: 1830  CW 2014-11-30 0448 TO7A 599 8 SM2BLY 599 14 
>>> MULT. Unique on  160. 
QSO: 1830 CW 2014-11-30 0449 TO7A 599 8 UT5URW 599 16  
>>> MULT. Unique on 160. 
QSO: 1830 CW 2014-11-30 0450 TO7A  599 8 K4LNN 599 05 
Unique on 160. 
QSO: 1830 CW 2014-11-30 0451 TO7A  599 8 DL3TU 599 14 
Unique on 160. 
QSO: 1830 CW 2014-11-30 0452 TO7A  599 8 LA5HE 599 14 
>>> MULT. Unique on 160. 
QSO: 1830 CW  2014-11-30 0454 TO7A 599 8 OE3V 599 15 
>>> MULT. Unique. 
QSO:  1830 CW 2014-11-30 0456 TO7A 599 8 OK1EK 599 15 
>>> MULT.  
QSO: 1830 CW 2014-11-30 0457 TO7A 599 8 SP3CQP 599 15 
>>>  MULT. 
QSO: 1830 CW 2014-11-30 0459 TO7A 599 8 OM1LA 599 15  
>>> MULT. Unique on 160. 
QSO: 1830 CW 2014-11-30 0459 TO7A  599 8 K0PJ 599 04 
Unique on 160. 
QSO: 1830 CW 2014-11-30 0502 TO7A 599  8 PA1BR 599 14 
>>> MULT. Unique on 160. 
QSO: 1830 CW  2014-11-30 0504 TO7A 599 8 PY1NP 599 11 
>>> DOUBLE MULT. Unique  on 160. 
QSO: 1830 CW 2014-11-30 0506 TO7A 599 8 LZ1MG 599 20  
>>> DOUBLE MULT. Unique on 160. 
QSO: 1830 CW 2014-11-30 0507  TO7A 599 8 RW3PK 599 16 
Unique on 160. 
QSO: 1830 CW 2014-11-30 0508  TO7A 599 8 R6KY 599 16 
NOT IN R6KY log 
QSO: 1830 CW 2014-11-30 0509  TO7A 599 8 9A2JK 599 15 
>>> MULT. Unique on 160. 
QSO: 1830 CW  2014-11-30 0511 TO7A 599 8 LU2YE 599 13 
>>> DOUBLE MULT. Unique.  
QSO: 1830 CW 2014-11-30 0512 TO7A 599 8 N3XF 599 05 
Unique on 160.  
QSO: 1830 CW 2014-11-30 0513 TO7A 599 8 W2OR 599 05 
QSO: 1830 CW  2014-11-30 0515 TO7A 599 8 YU1QU 599 15 
>>> MULT. Unique on 160.  
QSO: 1830 CW 2014-11-30 0517 TO7A 599 8 EA4FL 599 14 
>>>  MULT. Unique on 160. 
QSO: 1830 CW 2014-11-30 0518 TO7A 599 8 W9FY 599 04  
Unique on 160. 
QSO: 1830 CW 2014-11-30 0518 TO7A 599 8 N5HI 599 04  
Unique on 160. 
QSO: 1830 CW 2014-11-30 0519 TO7A 599 8 EI2KC 599 14  
>>> MULT. Unique on 160. 
QSO: 1830 CW 2014-11-30 0520 TO7A  599 8 KG8P 599 04 
QSO: 1830 CW 2014-11-30 0522 TO7A 599 8 EA8MT 599 33  
>>> DOUBLE MULT. Unique on 160. 
QSO: 7070 CW 2014-11-30 0526  TO7A 599 8 GM4CXM 599 14 
QSO: 1830 CW 2014-11-30 0530 TO7A 599 8 F5PZR 599  14 
>>> MULT. Unique on 160. 

73! 
R5GA  



11.05.2015, 14:56, "Randy Thompson K5ZD"  <k5zd@charter.net>: 
> Great job by EA5RS and others to identify  this block of 160m QSOs as 
> being suspicious. According to the reverse  log data (where we build a 
> log for every station that makes any  contacts in the received logs), 
> TO7A did not make any contacts  between 0433 and 0602 UTC 2014-11-30. 
> However, this is the same time  that there is a run of 160m QSOs in the 
> TO7A log. We cannot find  these QSOs on the SDR recording or RBN logs. 
> One could assume these  160m QSOs were added to the TO7A log to improve 
the 
score. 
>  
> All of the calls in this "160 run" were active in the contest, but  did 
> not submit a log. That implies there was a deliberate attempt to  pad 
> the log with calls that could not be cross checked. 
>  
> Anyone want to talk about something else now? 
> 
>  Randy, K5ZD 
>> -----Original Message----- 
>> From:  CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On 
>> Behalf  Of 
>> Dez Watson 
>> Sent: Monday, May 11, 2015 9:25 AM  
>> To: ea5rs@ono.com; cq-contest@contesting.com 
>>  Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] TO7A debacle 
>> 
>> Juan,  
>> 
>> Comparing public data from the RBN with the TO7A  log, the 160m 
>> running 
>> period between 
>>  0346 UTC and 0351 on Sunday 30th Nov matches well: 
>> 
>>  TO7A log: 
>> 
>> QSO: 1840 CW 2014-11-30 0346 TO7A 599 8  VE3DO 599 
>> 04 
>> QSO: 1840 CW 2014-11-30 0347 TO7A 599 8  W1/SP4Z 599 
>> 05 
>> QSO: 1840 CW 2014-11-30 0347 TO7A 599  8 XE2S 599 
>> 06 
>> QSO: 1840 CW 2014-11-30 0348 TO7A 599  8 N0TT 599 
>> 04 
>> QSO: 1840 CW 2014-11-30 0348 TO7A 599  8 W4NF 599 
>> 05 
>> QSO: 1840 CW 2014-11-30 0349 TO7A 599  8 VC7M 599 
>> 03 
>> QSO: 1840 CW 2014-11-30 0349 TO7A 599  8 NN6L 599 
>> 03 
>> QSO: 1840 CW 2014-11-30 0350 TO7A 599  8 NN5T 599 
>> 04 
>> QSO: 1840 CW 2014-11-30 0350 TO7A 599  8 NO9E 599 
>> 05 
>> QSO: 1840 CW 2014-11-30 0350 TO7A 599  8 K5KPE 599 
>> 04 
>> QSO: 1840 CW 2014-11-30 0351 TO7A 599  8 K9QVB 599 
>> 04 
>> QSO: 1840 CW 2014-11-30 0351 TO7A 599  8 K3JO 599 
>> 05 
>> 
>> In the time-frame above  there were at least 4 skimmers hits for TO7A 
>> from 
>>  WZ7I, K3MM, K8ND and PJ2A. 
>> 
>> An issue for me is, an  hour later, TO7A claims to be running on 160m 
>> but 
>>  there are no skimmer spots and what appear to be those 
>>  unsubstantiated 
>> QSOs which you correctly highlighted in your post  Juan. 
>> 
>> QSO: 1830 CW 2014-11-30 0437 TO7A 599 8 W9FML  599 
>> 04 
>> QSO: 1830 CW 2014-11-30 0438 TO7A 599 8 K6NO  599 
>> 03 
>> QSO: 1830 CW 2014-11-30 0439 TO7A 599 8 ON4TO  599 
>> 14 
>> QSO: 1830 CW 2014-11-30 0440 TO7A 599 8  OZ1CTK 599 
>> 14 
>> QSO: 1830 CW 2014-11-30 0441 TO7A 599  8 AC5RN 599 
>> 04 
>> QSO: 1830 CW 2014-11-30 0442 TO7A 599  8 RA3QSY 599 
>> 16 
>> QSO: 1830 CW 2014-11-30 0444 TO7A  599 8 G3ZHL 599 
>> 14 
>> QSO: 1830 CW 2014-11-30 0445 TO7A  599 8 DL7SBV 599 
>> 14 
>> QSO: 1830 CW 2014-11-30 0446  TO7A 599 8 DL8OK 599 
>> 14 
>> QSO: 1830 CW 2014-11-30 0447  TO7A 599 8 OH3M 599 
>> 15 
>> QSO: 1830 CW 2014-11-30 0448  TO7A 599 8 SM2BLY 599 
>> 14 
>> QSO: 1830 CW 2014-11-30  0449 TO7A 599 8 UT5URW 599 
>> 16 
>> QSO: 1830 CW  2014-11-30 0450 TO7A 599 8 K4LNN 599 
>> 05 
>> QSO: 1830 CW  2014-11-30 0451 TO7A 599 8 DL3TU 599 
>> 14 
>> QSO: 1830 CW  2014-11-30 0452 TO7A 599 8 LA5HE 599 
>> 14 
>> QSO: 1830 CW  2014-11-30 0454 TO7A 599 8 OE3V 599 
>> 15 
>> QSO: 1830 CW  2014-11-30 0456 TO7A 599 8 OK1EK 599 
>> 15 
>> QSO: 1830 CW  2014-11-30 0457 TO7A 599 8 SP3CQP 599 
>> 15 
>> QSO: 1830  CW 2014-11-30 0459 TO7A 599 8 OM1LA 599 
>> 15 
>> QSO: 1830  CW 2014-11-30 0459 TO7A 599 8 K0PJ 599 
>> 04 
>> QSO: 1830  CW 2014-11-30 0502 TO7A 599 8 PA1BR 599 
>> 14 
>> QSO: 1830  CW 2014-11-30 0504 TO7A 599 8 PY1NP 599 
>> 11 
>> QSO: 1830  CW 2014-11-30 0506 TO7A 599 8 LZ1MG 599 
>> 20 
>> QSO: 1830  CW 2014-11-30 0507 TO7A 599 8 RW3PK 599 
>> 16 
>> QSO: 1830  CW 2014-11-30 0508 TO7A 599 8 R6KY 599 
>> 16 
>> QSO: 1830  CW 2014-11-30 0509 TO7A 599 8 9A2JK 599 
>> 15 
>> QSO: 1830  CW 2014-11-30 0511 TO7A 599 8 LU2YE 599 
>> 13 
>> QSO: 1830  CW 2014-11-30 0512 TO7A 599 8 N3XF 599 
>> 05 
>> QSO: 1830  CW 2014-11-30 0513 TO7A 599 8 W2OR 599 
>> 05 
>> QSO: 1830  CW 2014-11-30 0515 TO7A 599 8 YU1QU 599 
>> 15 
>> QSO: 1830  CW 2014-11-30 0517 TO7A 599 8 EA4FL 599 
>> 14 
>> QSO: 1830  CW 2014-11-30 0518 TO7A 599 8 W9FY 599 
>> 04 
>> QSO: 1830  CW 2014-11-30 0518 TO7A 599 8 N5HI 599 
>> 04 
>> QSO: 1830  CW 2014-11-30 0519 TO7A 599 8 EI2KC 599 
>> 14 
>> QSO: 1830  CW 2014-11-30 0520 TO7A 599 8 KG8P 599 
>> 04 
>> QSO: 1830  CW 2014-11-30 0522 TO7A 599 8 EA8MT 599 
>> 33 
>>  
>> 73 
>> 
>> Dez G3WW 
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