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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] new scores in standings
From: "Braco OE1EMS" <oe1ems@emssolutions.at>
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Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2015 13:48:46 +0200
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Ist just simple,

if some contest organizer accept competitors log, even after deadline and score 
is in results
it should be accepted as well for WRTC...  

I my mind WRTC organizers are going  to far into contesting "making world 
better as it is"
WRTC is about competitors and not about organizers....


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Von: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] Im Auftrag von K5WA
Gesendet: Montag, 05. Oktober 2015 21:23
An: 'Terry Zivney'; cq-contest@contesting.com
Betreff: Re: [CQ-Contest] new scores in standings

I should have researched this before my past post.  In the RDX, the two 
different “deadlines” are shown here in the rules:
12. Log Submission Terms
12.1 Logs must be submitted to the contest sponsors within 14 days after the 
end of the contest (no later than 5.04.2015).
12.2 An applicant aiming for a spot in the "Top 3" list of any contest category 
(paragraph 3, 3.3) must submit his logs within 36 hours after the end of the 
Were the logs removed from the WRTC listing beyond the 36 hour deadline or the 
2 week deadline?  If they were beyond the 2 weeks, sure, wipe the slate clean.  
If we are talking about the award deadline, leave ‘em in.
From: Terry Zivney [mailto:n4tz@arrl.net]
Sent: Monday, October 5, 2015 1:28 PM
To: K5WA
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] new scores in standings
Hi Bob,
Those late did not meet the rules; therefore, they have no official score. The 
late logs are not subjected to as much scrutiny; just the computer cross-check. 
 In the 'old days', late logs didn't even get that courtesy.  I don't know 
about non-CQ contests, but I suspect that if you send in a log after the 
deadline to the WAE or RDXC that you will get NO points, not even a listing 
with italics.  
The most highly-publicized log problem in the CQWW last year came about from 
someone who manipulated their log moments before the  deadline by adding bogus 
QSOs. Do you think that we should let people 'enter' after the deadline and 
after they had a chance to see the public logs we post?
When  should the 'unofficial deadline (wink wink) for WRTC aspirants' be?
The deadline is the deadline.
Terry N4TZ
On Monday, October 5, 2015 12:51 PM, K5WA <K5WA@Comcast.net> wrote:
It seems to me that WRTC competitors really wouldn’t care so much about the 
“award” in any particular contest; they simply want the placement ranking to 
validate WRTC credits.  Rule C clearly says “award” and logically is limited to 
that particular contest.  I don’t see how an “award” for a particular contest 
can possibly stop the WRTC from accepting the placement ranking.  Does the WRTC 
require a plaque or certificate to validate ranking in a contest?  If a WRTC 
aspirant ranks in the published standings, even though he forgoes his right to 
an “award”, it really shouldn’t make any difference for WRTC qualification 
I say all this knowing I’m going to get dropped ANOTHER 1000 points behind our 
NA#4 TL if my idea is accepted.  ;-)
Just trying to be fair about “definitions”.  
2 cents offered…
Bob K5WA
Subject:    Re: [CQ-Contest] new scores in standings
From: Terry Zivney <n4tz@arrl.net>
Reply-to:   Terry Zivney <n4tz@arrl.net>
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2015 00:28:54 +0000 (UTC)
The rules of the CQ WPX Contest state clearly that "C. Logs submitted or 
postmarked after the deadline may be listed in the results, but are not 
eligible for awards."
This means not eligible for first place, second place, or last place awards.
Terry Zivney, N4TZ CQ WPX Contest Director
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