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Re: [CQ-Contest] SDR Mythbusters - ADC Overload myths debunked...

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] SDR Mythbusters - ADC Overload myths debunked...
From: Jim Brown <k9yc@audiosystemsgroup.com>
Reply-to: k9yc@arrl.net
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2015 22:09:11 -0800
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On Mon,11/9/2015 9:41 AM, Mark van Wijk, PA5MW wrote:
The NPR test is flawed because of its reference MDS.

The fundamental idea of the NPR test is a VERY good one -- properly done, NOT with a sliding reference level, is to expose the contribution of spurs and phase noise. It is the "sliding reference level" -- that is, each radio is tested with different amplitude test signal based on its characteristics -- that makes Adam's work fundamentally flawed.

There are many very nice things about SDRs, but they have two Achillies' Heels -- 1) dynamic range of their input stage is not great enough for most contesting, and 2) their User Interfaces are not geared to contesting. There is, of course, room for improvement on both fronts.

#1 can be eliminated for overload by out of band signals by a preselector front end, or by RX bandpass filters. But that does NOTHING for in-band overload, like 40M SSB in EU and AS, or at a M/M with two TX on the same band. The current hardware limitation within the SDR is that they exploit parts manufactured for the cell phone industry, which, by virtue of high mfg volume, offer great performance at low cost. But they have 10-15 dB less dynamic range than is required, and parts that do that cost a LOT more.

#2 can be overcome by coordination between those who tell the programmers what to do and those who use actually use radios on the air. :)

My neighbor, NR0V, author of the Pure Signal distortion reduction system, demonstrated for me a new noise reduction algorithm he's written for Power SDR, using the RX of the new inexpensive ANAN 10E on 40M SSB during the day. I was VERY impressed -- great noise reduction, very natural sounding with minimal artifacts. Certainly I'd like to hear it under contest conditions. :)

Meanwhile, some impressive remote and contesting stations are being built with Flex 6700s, and I'm hearing positive comments from users. Like all new products and ways of doing things, it takes time for us to learn to use them, for mfrs to understand our needs and make them better. My first station consisted of an truly awful Hallicrafters S38D and BC459 CW TX (WW II surplus).

73, Jim K9YC
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