Hi Martin and Friends
Martin
i can’t agree too, with ur sentence " Otherwise, in the end, results are more
proportional to the money that people can invest rather than skills”
Skill is really not related to the money that u can invest into u setup, but is
a real capability that u can build up, with a lot of time, perseverance, and
capability to learn from previous experience. The experiences are the main
factors, be in part of the world were u can’t win go get trophy, doesn’t mean
that u don’t have skill, but u are getting different kind of skills, i.e.
looking for mults in different way, build antennas for ur location, with more
deeply analyze of the problems, i.e. low band high performer antenna.
Unfortunately i didn’t expect that rules will change due the fact that there
ares in the world that are favorite to get hi scores due their location.
Because location is the main key to improve ur operator skill, were u really
can afford hi rates, and have to apply all ur previous experience from ur local
QTH.
I had spent several years understanding the propagation, around the world,
analyzing different experience, and at the end the right place, with a limited
money investment is the right solution, to improve the skill.
As i can understand you position, i really think the the only choice isn’t to
invest too much into your station, when u get the 90% of your capability, to
get more 5% un need to spend 50% more, because the main limit is the location.
Obviously as era doing, the best choice i moving around from ur QTH and getting
experience , and try to be in the right place in the right time.
Unfortunately the Hi Score Station are located most into areas that had , each
one, different sort of issue , i.e HC8, disappeared, D4 Huricanned two months
ago, Caribbean, also into salt area, CN were maintenance is monthly ….almost
located in the famous Atlantic
Triangle …
Spend ur time, that is invaluable , to get experience and skill outside ur
country if u think that u reach the limits ….
Best Regard
de Fabio I4UFH / D4Z
> Il giorno 10 nov 2015, alle ore 20:58, Drew Vonada-Smith
> <drew@whisperingwoods.org> ha scritto:
>
> Martin,
>
>
> I really can't agree with much of the thinking below. For example, there was
> never any intention that a low power category was meant for smaller stations
> with poorer antennas. It is only what it is; a power equalizer. By your
> logic QRP stations would be using mobile whips. If anything, the low power
> stations need to be excellent to complete.
>
>
> Deciding as a bigger station to compete low power is a perfectly legitimate
> strategy choice. To quote Jack Welsh, "Compete where you have a competitive
> advantage". No one ever said that contesting was supposed to be an equalized
> sport with handicaps to strictly choose the best operator. Designing and
> building a station is a lot of it. Choosing categories is part of it.
> Choosing which contests to operate it part of it. Smaller stations have an
> opportunity to put up better antennas. If they choose not to, so be it. If
> there are obstacles preventing it, that is a shame, but don't expect rules to
> fix it. Asking stations to qualify using "standardized" stations for a hobby
> sport is just unrealistic.
>
>
> By the way, WRTC has rules to prevent entering a "higher" category with less
> competition to win against a more competitive category. Even in assisted, or
> multi, you need to beat the SOH guy.
>
>
> There is a lot more to competition than being the fastest S&P'er or best CW
> pileup copier. And please note, I am a guy with a pretty small station (by
> contest standards) saying this.
>
>
> Level playing fields don't exist in this world. The rules knock down the
> mountains. We are expected to climb the hills.
>
>
> 73,
> Drew K3PA
>
>
>
> -----Original message-----
> From:Martin , LU5DX <lu5dx@lucg.com.ar>
> Sent:Tue 11-10-2015 01:23 pm
> Subject:Re: [CQ-Contest] WRTC qualifying (was Fwd: Re: Why some Caribbean
> Islands compete as South America)
> To:Mike Smith VE9AA <ve9aa@nbnet.nb.ca>;
> CC:CQ-Contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>;
> Thanks Mike,
> WRTC is the #1 Radio Sport event to which most contesters would love to
> attend. Even if it is not a as a competitor. Even if it is not as a
> referee.
> I had the opportunity of being in a team twice and nothing can describe
> what you experience throughout those magic weeks during WRTCs.
>
> However, I've seen some weird things happening during the last two
> qualifying runs. Things like guys jumping from one category to another to
> get more points than their friends make no good to our hobby, though those
> situations are totally allowed by the rules.
>
> Imagine a station that has tons of aluminum to compete against other high
> power mates, entering LP against stations that have been traditionally LP
> with modest antennas. Is that real competition?
> Imagine someone that know a buddy will enter SOAB and changes to MS or
> SOAB(A) because he/she has better chances of getting more points? Is that
> real competition?
>
> How can competition be fair if nothing is said about the type of the
> antennas that are to be used when qualifying. WRTC is about a tribander and
> some wires, but people are allowed to qualify with six tons of aluminum and
> 40-acre antenna farms...
>
> There should be a way out to this.
>
> I am not complaining in my case, just trying to point out the obvious,
> despite the fact that it seems to be widely accepted (and allowed by the
> rules).
>
> Anyways, most of us enter contests not because of WRTC, but because we
> simply have fun, and some of us, not even because we aim at a high
> standing, but we only want to improve our own marks and goals.
>
> If you think, because of the nature of most contests, that's the only 100%
> true and valid competition (the one against yourself). I really believe
> that's the philosophy of the vast majority of entrants. Nevertheless, we
> still can provide them a more rewarding experience when it comes to
> recognizing their efforts.
>
> 73,
>
> Martin LU5DX
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 12:26 PM, Mike Smith VE9AA <ve9aa@nbnet.nb.ca>
> wrote:
>
>> See my comments below LU5DX’s:
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> LU5DX said:
>>
>> That is true in part Igor. Despite the fact that WRTC was created to
>>
>> evaluate operators' skills, the qualifying run is held by taking into
>>
>> account the results of those events where mostly location, amount of
>>
>> aluminum, power and several other factors that are beyond what organizers
>>
>> can control, determine the final standings.
>>
>>
>>
>> I think that finding a better scoring system and probably other Contest
>>
>> "mechanics" like QSO/QSY which will reduce the effects of those factors
>>
>> that go beyond operating skills will be something really possitive for
>>
>> contesting overall. Otherwise, in the end, results are more proportional to
>>
>> the money that people can invest rather than skills.
>>
>>
>>
>> 73,
>>
>>
>>
>> Martin LU5DX
>>
>>
>>
>> Martin,
>>
>>
>>
>> You sir, are a very wise man ! * W O W *
>>
>>
>>
>> While it’s certainly true once you are in the WRTC tent, things are very
>> fair as to have matched stations and antennas (especially in the last 2-3
>> WRTC’s) it HASN’T been entirely fair to get there, now has it?
>>
>> Depending where in the world you live (if your WRTC zone has Mega or
>> Superstations for example) and the depth of your pockets (how rich you are)
>> Those 2 factors will certain affect your eligibility more than
>>
>> your skill level (I believe). Deep pockets allows you to build a huge
>> station and/or go to rare locations where you can also get WRTC pts.
>>
>>
>>
>> I have never really paid attention until recently as my contesting has
>> waxed and waned over the decades, but there sure seems to be a lot of
>> REALLY loud Low Power stations since February.
>>
>> If you follow the WRTC rules, you know what I am referring to.
>>
>>
>>
>> Good post Martin. A real reality check. Am I complaining? Well, yes,
>> yes I guess I am ! ;-)
>>
>>
>>
>> Mike VE9AA Verticals and dipoles/wires + 1 vy low tribander……WRTC Zone NA
>> #7
>>
>>
>>
>> Mike, Coreen & Corey
>>
>> Keswick Ridge, NB
>>
>>
>>
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