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Re: [CQ-Contest] QTC group number problem in N1MM+?

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] QTC group number problem in N1MM+?
From: sq7d <sq7d@onet.pl>
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2016 18:16:40 +0200
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Hallo

I think that I should say a word about qtc's serials number.
After cabrillo log was generated I saw that many qtc's serials were missing. 
QCT's serials were incomplete and looked like:
/8
10
/
Some were correct.
Question is - why logger saved just /10 or / when whole number was typed?
What is a sense of saving uncomplete qtc serial number?
I exchanged qtc's with stations well heard, stable signals, most at my run 
frequencies.
See recordings WAE SSB 2016 from my station:

https://youtu.be/W7XsSbosksU

https://youtu.be/qxzsrPLdvIE

https://youtu.be/n6GoZeJSkUA

https://youtu.be/7G3dBnFhDLY

Second question is what happen with software? It is a bug (in any meaning) or 
selective deaf for qtc's serials?
I have no RF issues with keyboard or mouse.
I have no access to raw files now because station is in other place I live but 
I will check it if I have a time for it.

I do not blame myself for missed qtc's. I know what I heard and typed.
It was a mistake to sent mails for many with request but let say - it was done 
in affect just after I decided to finish.
Thanks to Helmut for help and sorry for all I bother by mails.

Matt SQ7D/SN7D




W dniu 2016-09-15 14:51:30 użytkownik Steve London <n2icarrl@gmail.com> napisał:
> If there is an N1MM+ bug, please explain why it has not been reported on 
> the N1MM+ yahoo reflector, nor has an N1MM+ bug report been opened ?
> 
> 73,
> Steve, N2IC
> 
> On 09/14/2016 10:04 PM, Helmut Mueller wrote:
> > Hi there!
> >
> > Yes it is a N1MM bug and you can not upload the log as the QTC number reads 
> >  /10
> >    instead of  23/10    for example.
> >
> > I told the guys to fill all missing QTC numbers with 999/10 to get the log
> > through upload, but you will have one point "loss" due to the wrong QTC 
> > number.
> > I.e. still getting 9 points instead of 10 if the rest is correct.
> >
> > Even that it IS a bug, i still find exchanging QSO data via email is not a 
> > good
> > idea.
> >
> > 73
> >
> > Helmut DF7ZS
> > WAEDC Manager
> >
> >> Mike Smith VE9AA <ve9aa@nbnet.nb.ca> hat am 15. September 2016 um 04:34
> >> geschrieben:
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi Doug,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Yes, I received one from a western EU'n on Monday.
> >>
> >> I told him that in good faith I just could not supply him with those #'s.  
> >> I
> >> know I probably just lost 10 QTC's and maybe
> >>
> >> the original QSO with him, but that's the game.  I am not about to send
> >> someone data after the fact in any contest.
> >>
> >> After the race is run, it's run, whether your computer dies, the program
> >> glitches, or whatever.
> >>
> >> At 0000z, you're done.-right?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I did point him towards the very excellent N1MM Yahoo users group telling
> >> him that
> >>
> >> presumably, if his adif file (not his Cabrillo) was still intact, someone
> >> there would likely be able to restore
> >>
> >> his log.  I also have had one or two small quirks with the WAE upload in 
> >> the
> >> past, so perhaps
> >>
> >> it's not totally his log at fault - who knows.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> His story was *exactly* as you describe, however I have seen ZERO messages
> >> on that FB N1MM+ users
> >>
> >> group from anyone asking for help.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I feel his pain, 'cuz last year I left dozens of QTC's unsent..not because 
> >> I
> >> didn't/couldn't find a QTC
> >>
> >> partner, but it was something in the way I was logging (my own fault) which
> >> incorrectly counted the QTC's
> >>
> >> and in some cases I could not send the "balance" of QTC's to previous
> >> partners.
> >>
> >> It was a tough pill for me to swallow.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I am not sure what to make of it, but would the person(s) not reach out to
> >> the N1MM users group first,
> >>
> >> rather than asking by email for "fills"????....It makes me wonder.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Mike VE9AA
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I have received several emails in the past two days from European
> >>
> >> stations asking for the number of the QTC groups I sent them. All are
> >>
> >> claiming it is a bug in N1MM+ generating a Cabrillo file missing the
> >>
> >> QTC group number.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I am not sure if this is a real bug, or if the stations just did not
> >>
> >> copy my QTC group number and are asking for a post-contest fill as if
> >>
> >> they had not copied my serial number or something.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I generally refuse to supply missing exchange information until after
> >>
> >> the log deadline. However, if this is a program bug, I am willing to
> >>
> >> help these guys.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Is anyone else getting these same requests?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Any N1MM+ European users having this problem? I am not an N1MM user
> >>
> >> and do not subscribe to their reflectors.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 73,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Doug K1DG
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Mike, Coreen & Corey
> >>
> >> Keswick Ridge, NB
> >>
> >>
> >>
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