I don't see the Problem.
Unassisted = NOT Cluster = No Spots = No Selfspots
Assisted = Allow self spotting
73
Helmut DF7ZS
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Von: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] Im Auftrag von
Jukka Klemola
Gesendet: Sunday, 26 February, 2017 10:51 AM
An: Joe <nss@mwt.net>
Cc: cq-contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Betreff: Re: [CQ-Contest] Allowing self-spotting
Sirs,
I have difficulties following this discussion.
There are people selling the idea to allow self-spotting.
Which way are we going:
-allowing CQ calling on internet
-keeping the un-assisted category
.. or are we developing extreme double.standard or what is going on?
A glimpse into the Pandora's box we are now cranking open:
Is a station using CQoIP but claims not using spotting data, is such entrant
un-assisted?
73,
Jukka OH6LI
2017-02-26 3:04 GMT+02:00 Joe <nss@mwt.net>:
> I also like this self spotting.
>
> BUT..... and there always is a BUT isn't there? I like the three
> QSO's rule, BUT. there needs to also be a max per hour?
>
> Then gain here we are, back to the same problem, UG!
>
> I can just see someone spotting themself after every q.
>
> Joe WB9SBD
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> On 2/24/2017 4:30 PM, Stan Stockton wrote:
>
>> Yes. This is what I wrote about a year and a half ago:
>>
>> 2015-10-28 4:06 GMT+01:00 Stan Stockton <wa5rtg@gmail.com>:
>> There should be a rule allowing the software to automatically submit
>> a self spot after you have logged perhaps three QSOs on the same
>> frequency - same rule for everyone. After all, when you call CQ on CW
>> you are, in effect, self spotting. There is a huge advantage in being
>> spotted and, on SSB, there is a huge difference in the number of
>> spots for different stations giving advantage to those who are
>> spotted frequently and quickly after a frequency change. 73... Stan,
>> K5GO
>>
>>
>> On Feb 24, 2017, at 9:49 AM, Steve London <n2icarrl@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> On CW, we already have the equivalent of self spotting, thanks to CW
>>> Skimmer and the RBN. It's virtually impossible to NOT be spotted. CW
>>> Skimmer/RBN is the great equalizer - you no longer have to depend on
>>> a network of friends to spot you.
>>>
>>> We wouldn't be having this discussion if there was a SSB Skimmer.
>>> Right now, we have a system where "those with the right friends"
>>> have an advantage. Why not simply allow self spotting on SSB ?
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Steve, N2IC
>>>
>>> On 02/22/2017 12:22 PM, Bob Henderson wrote:
>>>> Having myself met with unfair and unjustified treatment at the
>>>> hands of RDXC adjudicators I can empathise with those claiming
>>>> unfair treatment in adjudication. However in this case having
>>>> looked at the information supplied and done a little further
>>>> digging, I am unsure my empathy is justified.
>>>>
>>>> 3V8SS it seems acknowledges cheer-leading by his fellow Tunisians
>>>> KG5OUE and F4HJD but claims not to have encouraged it. I am
>>>> inclined to believe him, given some of my own friends have spotted
>>>> me during contests and I have NEVER, that is NOT EVER, asked anyone
>>>> to do so.
>>>>
>>>> That said, HB9EOU appears to be rather more than a random contact
>>>> with Switzerland. Last year HB9EOU operated in the IOTA contest
>>>> from 3V8SM on Djerba Island AF-083 along with F4HJD. Ash (3V8SS) +
>>>> F4HJD + 3V8CB had activated 3V8SM from Djerba Island a couple of
>>>> months earlier.
>>>>
>>>> The recording of the contact with HB9EOU seems odd, though the
>>>> events not entirely inexplicable but small circles in which the
>>>> same calls crop up repetitively raise questions. Perhaps it's all
>>>> an extraordinary coincidence but there is enough doubt for me to
>>>> wonder whether my empathy might have been misplaced.
>>>>
>>>> Bob, 5B4AGN
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2017 09:48:33 -0600
>>>> From: "Doug Renwick" <ve5ra@sasktel.net>
>>>> To: "'Ashraf Chaabane'" <ash.kf5eyy@gmail.com>, "'cq-contest'"
>>>> <cq-contest@contesting.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] R: Re: R: 3V8SS disqualified from WW SSB and
>>>> WRTC
>>>> Message-ID: <E976655BE7DB448B8806659C02036C2C@DOUG8PC>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>>>
>>>> After reading your post and based on your response to the
>>>> committee, I would conclude that Bob, W5OV; Doug, KR2Q; Scott, W4PA
>>>> are nitpickers with an agenda.
>>>> If anything valid is further introduced to support the committee's
>>>> decision, then I would revise my opinion. As it stands, I believe
>>>> you were unfairly DQd.
>>>> Doug
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On
>>>> Behalf Of Ashraf Chaabane
>>>> Sent: February-22-17 7:34 AM
>>>> To: cq-contest
>>>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] R: Re: R: 3V8SS disqualified from WW SSB
>>>> and WRTC
>>>>
>>>> Mike, Ria and all,
>>>>
>>>> I put online the CC accusations (their native emails) and my responses:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.kf5eyy.info/3V8SS_WWSSB16_DQ.htm
>>>>
>>>> I think that allows everyone to read from both sides. Now it's up
>>>> to you to comment!
>>>>
>>>> 73
>>>> --
>>>> Ash ~ 3V8SS/KF5EYY
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