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Re: [CQ-Contest] Attention CQWW SO2R Competitors

To: "k5zd@charter.net" <k5zd@charter.net>, 'Tree' <tree@kkn.net>, "cq-contest@contesting.com" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Attention CQWW SO2R Competitors
From: Trent Sampson <vk4ts@outlook.com>
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2017 22:17:04 +0000
List-post: <mailto:cq-contest@contesting.com>
"For example, a station tuning through the band and working spotted multipliers 
will sound the same on the SDR recordings, but is very obvious listening to the 
operator's headphone recordings."

Better not be using pan adapters clicking on the peaks then. 

This is getting more and more ridiculous.

We are all now stamped as cheats period - No one can be trusted, why even 
bother having this rule in the contest as we all are deemed to have no ethics. 

XIII. DECLARATION:

By submitting a CQ WW DX Contest log, and in consideration of the efforts of 
the CQ WW DX Contest Committee to review and evaluate that log, an entrant 
unconditionally and irrevocably agrees that he/she has: 1) read and understood 
the rules of the contest and agrees to be bound by them, 2) operated according 
to all rules and regulations that pertain to amateur radio for the station 
location, 3) agreed the log entry may be made open to the public, and 4) 
accepted that the issuing of disqualifications and other decisions of the 
Committee are official and final. If an entrant is unwilling or unable to agree 
to all of the foregoing, the entrant should not submit the entry or submit the 
entry as a Checklog only.

What is the use of that or any other of the rules of the contest the entire 
community is tainted 

73 


Trent Sampson
VK4TS 
Po Box 275 Mooloolaba QLD 4557 
Mobile 0408497550




-----Original Message-----
From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Randy 
Thompson K5ZD
Sent: Friday, 30 June 2017 7:48 AM
To: 'Tree'; cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Attention CQWW SO2R Competitors

The SDR recordings are good for knowing what happened over the air.  The 
station recordings help to know what the operator was actually doing.  For 
example, a station tuning through the band and working spotted multipliers will 
sound the same on the SDR recordings, but is very obvious listening to the 
operator's headphone recordings.

The SDR recordings are way cool and the technology for making them keeps 
improving.  But, the resulting files can be huge. Big enough that it is 
actually faster to ship the hard drives around the world rather than copy the 
files between servers!

Using the SDR recordings can be time consuming as there is not an easy way to 
jump to a particular time and frequency on demand.  It is sometimes very 
enlightening to hear what actually happened over the air.

While extremely valuable, not sure SDR recordings will solve every need. The 
real question should be whether the station recordings provide enough value to 
be worth the effort.

As Tree points out, none of this will matter if we don't keep encouraging new 
blood to enjoy and enter contests! 

Randy, K5ZD
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf 
> Of Tree
> Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2017 5:49 PM
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Attention CQWW SO2R Competitors
> 
> Ken - K6MR (aka WB6VFJ) opines:
> 
> "If they have access to "full-band, SDR recordings", why should I need 
> to record anything"?
> 
> I would think that the network of SDR recorders will continue to grow 
> and make the recording rule obsolete within 5 years.  Hopefully - that 
> will precede contesting becoming obsolete by many years.
> 
> Tree N6TR
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