perfect answer.
73
Helmut
df7zs.de
Paul O'Kane schrieb am 2. Aug 2017 09:55:
> On 01/08/2017 23:13, Holger@9h3m.com wrote:
>> No top operator in any contest is unassisted!
>
> It's clear that ZL3IO/ZM4T doesn't understand the difference
> between Assisted and Unassisted.
>
> When we use generally available spotting information
> (frequency and call) over public networks from any source,
> whether people or RBN, we are Assisted.
>
> Additionally, we are Assisted when we use a local
> Skimmer to provide spots.
>
> Otherwise, we are Unassisted.
>
>> The moment you get spotted by any skimmer or other Ham you get
>> assistance!
>
> That's correct, just as we get assistance from greater
> activity and better propagation and better equipment,
> not to mention our acquired ability to find stations
> and work pileups. None of this makes us Assisted.
>
>> Only because you don't use the cluster at your station does not make you
>> unassisted.
>
> Wrong! When you are not Assisted, as described, you
> are Unassisted.
>
>
>> I would like to see this acknowledged by more organisers in combining
>> assisted and unassisted classes. In my eyes not doing this is cheating
>> already! Especially since it is impossible to control this.
>
> ZL3IO, presumably, has made the choice to operated Assisted.
> Unassisted operators prefer to to find other stations all by
> themselves. How other people find us, the Unassisted operators,
> is their business.
>
>> Unassisted is established as the premium over assisted.
>
> And why not? Unassisted operators are generally better at
> finding stations to work all by themselves.
>
>> Look at the forms of awarding and acknowledging results. There is a
>> tone of discrimination when it comes to assisted class.
>
> Correct - what's your point?
>
>> We down in the Pacific know exactly about the power of cluster spots as
>> only after we get spotted we have runs!!! No one points antennas towards
>> us otherwise. If I do unassisted I can tell when I got spotted. I can
>> even tell you if it was a skimmer or dx-cluster.
>
> Good for you.
>
>> If you can't arrange to block unassisted claiming operators from getting
>> spotted on any network you are operating assisted no matter what you
>> claim.
>
> Nonsense. We all all assisted by things that are beyond our
> control. They do not make us Assisted.
>
>> Pleas stop lying to yourself!
>
> Please try to be better informed.
>
> 73,
> Paul EI5DI
>
>
>
>
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