What is making Sunday not fun?
Slow Rates? Sounds like the majority of the complaints.
These crybabies obviously have never done a VHF/UHF contest.
Where you're happy to get 1 Q a hour the second day!
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On 11/6/2017 10:12 PM, W0MU Mike Fatchett wrote:
Sunday has been bad for years. Why is this year more special or more
bad (sk) than other years?
Maybe people can only handle it for so many years before it is no
longer fun.
We are no different than regular people and there are many many things
to keep us entertained or busy other than radio. When things are no
longer fun, people stop participating.
How do you make SS fun on Sunday?
W0MU
On 11/6/2017 12:16 PM, Jeff Clarke wrote:
That's nice Kelly but in the end most people just want to have fun
and right now Sweepstakes isn't on Sunday. That shows with the lack
of activity on Sunday. I can't think of another all-band contest
other than Sweepstakes where you can only work a station once?
BTW we don't run out of CA stations to work after sunset. I first
went to 20 meters on Saturday at 2145z. Stayed there until about
2210z when I went to 40 meters. I went back to 20 meters at 2339z.
Stayed there until 0215z (The band was open all over the country ,
including CA, from here in GA.) and then back to 40 meters. That's
why my 80 meter QSO count was lower than it normally is. I tried 80
later on Saturday night but there wasn't much activity because
everyone was on 40 meters. My guess is that most of the people who
have higher numbers on 80 meters were SO2R and were interleaving
QSO's between 80 and 40 meters.
Jeff
On 11/6/2017 1:29 PM, ve4xt@mymts.net wrote:
The main benefit I see from the one-Q per station rule is it
democratizes SS unlike other contests.
Here is what leads me to this conclusion: megabuck GA station is
going to work out California on 20 and higher before sunset. Because
of this, his 6/6/6 on 80 (cmon, have a sense of humor) is not as
valuable, so he's primarily left working on 80 what he can't work on
the high bands, just like everyone else.
Give him the chance to work all those W6s again on 40 and 80, which
he can do far easier than Joe Lunchbucket with an inverted vee at
50, and again on 160 with his high dipole, and you've turned SS into
a megabuck-station-only contest like many of the others.
SS is unique in how small stations can still do quite well. Much of
that is due to the neutering of multi-element low-band antennas
through the one-q per station rule. I like the fact a good op may
need nothing more than a tribander and shorty-forty on the same
tower to win.
I get that Sunday doldrums are a drag, but I'm not sure opening up
this particular rule is the best answer.
73, kelly, ve4xt
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On Nov 6, 2017, at 10:36, Jeff Clarke <ku8e@ku8e.com> wrote:
I love CW contests with a passion but I might consider not doing CW
SS FT anymore. I took just about all my off time in one stretch
starting at 0800 Z so I could get a decent nights sleep because I
dreading operating (BORING) on Sunday. The only thing that kept me
going was that I needed about 5 multipliers for a sweep. Watching
football when operating also helped me get thru it ! If it wasn't
for those things I might have quit early.
Maybe it's the right time to think about a rules change because it
isn't going to get better anytime soon. The declining sunspots
will make participation decrease even more than it has. I'm still
fairly young in my 50's and I'm afraid in 10 years there won't be
anyone to work in a CW contests. Lots of checks in the 1950's and
1960's. Not as many in the 1970's when I was licensed. Very few
above the 1990's and 2000 +.
I know it's been discussed before but maybe it's time to allow a
QSO with the same station on multiple bands. It would at least make
SS more fun. Before anyone argues this wouldn't be fair consider
pretty much the same people win every year because they have a good
station/antennas and are SO2R experts. Plus most have a
geographical advantage as well. I will admit I have it a lot better
in Georgia then I did in Ohio. But not as good as those on the west
coast. How else could I make almost make 400 QSO's on 20 meters
using a dipole at 40 feet? Plus when 40 meters goes long it's good
for me too because the guys north of me can't work each other. That
gives me somewhat of a captive audience. On the other hand 80
meters isn't as good for me as it was in Ohio. Always get beat out
when a station further away is called by someone closer to them. So
no matter the advantage you might enjoy it might be offset by
someone else's on another band.
I also wish they would make SO2R a separate category because it
gives someone an advantage similar to SOA.
Jeff KU8E
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