That really depends. Russian and French (TO/TM) calls come to mind.
Ria
N2RJ
On Tue, 12 Mar 2019 at 17:33, Gerry Hull <gerry@yccc.org> wrote:
>
> CQ WW. All you need is the correct callsign for 99.99% of the contacts.
> The logger does the rest.
>
> Gerry W1VE
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 2:38 PM Dave Edmonds <dave@pkministrywebs.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I thought you had to have correct information in your log for contacts in
> > any contest... So which contests allow us to do half the job?
> >
> > Dave AFP
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 12:36 PM NM5M <nm5meric@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Don’t forget, in the Russian contest, the contest sponsor penalizes
> > > stations if the receiving party doesn’t get the information correctly
> > into
> > > their log. To simplify, both stations have to copy correct information in
> > > order to get full points for the contact.
> > >
> > > We could learn something from the way the Russians score their contest.
> > >
> > > 73,
> > >
> > > NM5M
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> > > > On Mar 12, 2019, at 8:56 AM, cq-contest-request@contesting.com wrote:
> > > >
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> > > > Today's Topics:
> > > >
> > > > 1. Phone Fray - Daylight Savings Time - Tuesday Nights
> > > > (dfaklis@frontiernet.net)
> > > > 2. Serial # contests, speed? (Mike Smith VE9AA)
> > > > 3. Re: Serial # contests, speed? (K9MA)
> > > > 4. Re: Serial # contests, speed? (Edward Sawyer)
> > > > 5. Re: Serial # contests, speed? (rjairam@gmail.com)
> > > > 6. Re: Serial # contests, speed? (jimk8mr@aol.com)
> > > > 7. Re: Serial # contests, speed? (Bob Shohet, KQ2M)
> > > > 8. Re: Serial # contests, speed? (Ed K1EP)
> > > > 9. Serial # contests, speed? (Bill Parry)
> > > > 10. Serial # contests, speed? (jpescatore@aol.com)
> > > > 11. Re: Serial # contests, speed? (Dave Edmonds)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > Message: 1
> > > > Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2019 22:16:05 +0000 (UTC)
> > > > From: "dfaklis@frontiernet.net" <dfaklis@frontiernet.net>
> > > > To: "cq-contest@contesting.com" <cq-contest@contesting.com>, MRRC
> > > > Reflector <mrrc@contesting.com>
> > > > Subject: [CQ-Contest] Phone Fray - Daylight Savings Time - Tuesday
> > > > Nights
> > > > Message-ID: <409963253.2905044.1552342565021@mail.yahoo.com>
> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> > > >
> > > > Phone Fray - Tuesday Evening, 10:30pm EDT (0230-0300z Wednesday),
> > > 30-minute SSB contest.? Please bring a friend and introduce a new
> > contester
> > > into the mix.? One QSO or many, please enter your score.
> > > >
> > > > The Phone Fray is weekly and mirrors NAQP SSB; exchange name and S/P/C,
> > > mults per band.
> > > >
> > > > Suggested center frequencies are:? 21.325, 14.250, 7.175, 3.800,
> > 1.875.?
> > > General Ops can be found above 3.800.
> > > >
> > > > 20 may be open at the start, then folks move down to 40, 80, and Q's
> > are
> > > had on 160 in the last 5-10 minutes.
> > > >
> > > > Rules are here:? http://www.perluma.com/Phone_Fray_Contest_Rules.pdf
> > > >
> > > > Join the free Yahoo Groups Reflector for communications:
> > > > https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/PhoneFray/info
> > > >
> > > > No logs, just report scores to http://www.3830scores.com
> > > >
> > > > Please forward this email to your clubs and amateurs that might be
> > > interested.?? Great for new contesters and veterans alike.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks!
> > > >
> > > > 73, Dean, NW2K
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > Message: 2
> > > > Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2019 21:44:17 -0300
> > > > From: "Mike Smith VE9AA" <ve9aa@nbnet.nb.ca>
> > > > To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> > > > Subject: [CQ-Contest] Serial # contests, speed?
> > > > Message-ID: <002e01d4d86c$b9f0a350$2dd1e9f0$@nbnet.nb.ca>
> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> > > >
> > > > For contests like RDX and WPX where the exchange is a serial #, do you:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > . Go as fast as always. (34-36wpm) , risking your qso partner
> > > busting
> > > > the #,but keeping rate high.
> > > >
> > > > . Go a bit slower (30-32wpm), hoping the QRS improves the copy &
> > > > reduces busted exchanges.
> > > >
> > > > . Send everything just as fast as normal (whatever that speed
> > is),
> > > but
> > > > use brackets <<>> (a la N1MM) to slow down JUST the serial #
> > > >
> > > > . Slow down only for obviously slow callers
> > > >
> > > > . Something else?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Inquiring minds.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I don't want to skew the results, so I won't say (yet) what I do. (and
> > > who
> > > > knows if what I do is even 'right')
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Mike VE9AA
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Mike, Coreen & Corey
> > > >
> > > > Keswick Ridge, NB
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > Message: 3
> > > > Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2019 20:02:55 -0600
> > > > From: K9MA <k9ma@sdellington.us>
> > > > To: Mike Smith VE9AA <ve9aa@nbnet.nb.ca>
> > > > Cc: cq-contest@contesting.com
> > > > Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Serial # contests, speed?
> > > > Message-ID: <C7FA205D-26C9-4065-818E-C4B7227D2961@sdellington.us>
> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> > > >
> > > > I slow down to the other?s speed, if necessary, and further if
> > > conditions are poor. I think slowing down just for the sn is
> > > counterproductive.
> > > >
> > > > 73,
> > > > Scott K9MA
> > > >
> > > > ----------
> > > >
> > > > Scott Ellington
> > > >
> > > > --- via iPad
> > > >
> > > >> On Mar 11, 2019, at 6:44 PM, Mike Smith VE9AA <ve9aa@nbnet.nb.ca>
> > > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> For contests like RDX and WPX where the exchange is a serial #, do
> > you:
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> . Go as fast as always. (34-36wpm) , risking your qso partner
> > > busting
> > > >> the #,but keeping rate high.
> > > >>
> > > >> . Go a bit slower (30-32wpm), hoping the QRS improves the copy &
> > > >> reduces busted exchanges.
> > > >>
> > > >> . Send everything just as fast as normal (whatever that speed
> > > is), but
> > > >> use brackets <<>> (a la N1MM) to slow down JUST the serial #
> > > >>
> > > >> . Slow down only for obviously slow callers
> > > >>
> > > >> . Something else?
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Inquiring minds.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> I don't want to skew the results, so I won't say (yet) what I do. (and
> > > who
> > > >> knows if what I do is even 'right')
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Mike VE9AA
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Mike, Coreen & Corey
> > > >>
> > > >> Keswick Ridge, NB
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> _______________________________________________
> > > >> CQ-Contest mailing list
> > > >> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> > > >> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > Message: 4
> > > > Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2019 22:01:42 -0400
> > > > From: Edward Sawyer <EdwardS@sbelectronics.com>
> > > > To: Mike Smith VE9AA <ve9aa@nbnet.nb.ca>, "cq-contest@contesting.com"
> > > > <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> > > > Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Serial # contests, speed?
> > > > Message-ID:
> > > > <
> > > 0D39B6681B67B44DAEC5D6AD99294A8E047CF8ED1E61@SBEMAIL.sbelectronics.com>
> > > >
> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> > > >
> > > > For WPX and Russia DX or ARRL or CQWW, for me it doesn't matter, serial
> > > # or not. If conditions are good and you are working Europe, especially,
> > > Russia and Eastern Europe, its fast 36 - 40. If its all US or South
> > > America I slow it down to 32 - 34. When conditions are more marginal
> > > especially with QSB, I use 28 - 30. Especially over the pole - 26 - 28.
> > > >
> > > > Ed N1UR
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf
> > > Of Mike Smith VE9AA
> > > > Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 8:44 PM
> > > > To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> > > > Subject: [CQ-Contest] Serial # contests, speed?
> > > >
> > > > For contests like RDX and WPX where the exchange is a serial #, do you:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > . Go as fast as always. (34-36wpm) , risking your qso partner
> > > busting
> > > > the #,but keeping rate high.
> > > >
> > > > . Go a bit slower (30-32wpm), hoping the QRS improves the copy &
> > > > reduces busted exchanges.
> > > >
> > > > . Send everything just as fast as normal (whatever that speed
> > is),
> > > but
> > > > use brackets <<>> (a la N1MM) to slow down JUST the serial #
> > > >
> > > > . Slow down only for obviously slow callers
> > > >
> > > > . Something else?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Inquiring minds.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I don't want to skew the results, so I won't say (yet) what I do. (and
> > > who knows if what I do is even 'right')
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Mike VE9AA
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Mike, Coreen & Corey
> > > >
> > > > Keswick Ridge, NB
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > CQ-Contest mailing list
> > > > CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> > > > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > Message: 5
> > > > Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2019 22:05:47 -0400
> > > > From: "rjairam@gmail.com" <rjairam@gmail.com>
> > > > To: Mike Smith VE9AA <ve9aa@nbnet.nb.ca>
> > > > Cc: CQ-Contest Reflector <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> > > > Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Serial # contests, speed?
> > > > Message-ID:
> > > > <CAMCyBs6k43PRTDN14_t8r7c9vjAGdWqE1R8iadZ1R1Z7Wk+VOg@mail.gmail.com
> > >
> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> > > >
> > > > Automatically have software go slower to send the exchange.
> > > >
> > > > 73
> > > > Ria, N2RJ
> > > >
> > > >> On Mon, 11 Mar 2019 at 21:58, Mike Smith VE9AA <ve9aa@nbnet.nb.ca>
> > > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> For contests like RDX and WPX where the exchange is a serial #, do
> > you:
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> . Go as fast as always. (34-36wpm) , risking your qso partner
> > > busting
> > > >> the #,but keeping rate high.
> > > >>
> > > >> . Go a bit slower (30-32wpm), hoping the QRS improves the copy &
> > > >> reduces busted exchanges.
> > > >>
> > > >> . Send everything just as fast as normal (whatever that speed
> > > is), but
> > > >> use brackets <<>> (a la N1MM) to slow down JUST the serial #
> > > >>
> > > >> . Slow down only for obviously slow callers
> > > >>
> > > >> . Something else?
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Inquiring minds.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> I don't want to skew the results, so I won't say (yet) what I do. (and
> > > who
> > > >> knows if what I do is even 'right')
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Mike VE9AA
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Mike, Coreen & Corey
> > > >>
> > > >> Keswick Ridge, NB
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> _______________________________________________
> > > >> CQ-Contest mailing list
> > > >> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> > > >> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Ria Jairam, N2RJ
> > > > Director, Hudson Division
> > > > ARRL - The national association for Amateur Radio?
> > > > +1.973.594.6275
> > > > https://hudson.arrl.org
> > > > n2rj@arrl.org
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > Message: 6
> > > > Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2019 02:15:35 +0000 (UTC)
> > > > From: jimk8mr@aol.com
> > > > To: ve9aa@nbnet.nb.ca, cq-contest@contesting.com
> > > > Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Serial # contests, speed?
> > > > Message-ID: <2066153686.3273616.1552356935422@mail.yahoo.com>
> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> > > >
> > > > I'm of a keep it at the same speed style - I don't think the 300
> > > milliseconds one saves by sending 5NN at warp speed compensates for the
> > > other guy's brain having to shift gears to copy what I'm sending.
> > > > I judge just how fast I'm sending by the nature of the pileup (assuming
> > > I have one!). The bigger the pileup, the safer it is to go fast, as it is
> > > quite likely the guy you're working just listened to your previous QSO
> > and
> > > knows how to increment a number.
> > > >
> > > > Maybe not so much in serial number contests, but in a no-brain exchange
> > > contest (i.e. CQWW) sending on the fast side puts a sense of urgency for
> > > the other guy to call you now.
> > > >
> > > > And as a contest wears on, yes, sending somewhat slower is a good
> > > strategy. And if for some reason (hopefully other than you got spotted
> > with
> > > a busted call) you do get a small pileup, go ahead and bump up the speed
> > a
> > > bit.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 73? -? Jim? K8MR
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Mike Smith VE9AA <ve9aa@nbnet.nb.ca>
> > > > To: cq-contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> > > > Sent: Mon, Mar 11, 2019 9:58 pm
> > > > Subject: [CQ-Contest] Serial # contests, speed?
> > > >
> > > > For contests like RDX and WPX where the exchange is a serial #, do you:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > .? ? ? Go as fast as always. (34-36wpm) , risking your qso partner
> > > busting
> > > > the #,but keeping rate high.
> > > >
> > > > .? ? ? Go a bit slower (30-32wpm), hoping the QRS improves the copy &
> > > > reduces busted exchanges.
> > > >
> > > > .? ? ? Send everything just as fast as normal (whatever that speed is),
> > > but
> > > > use brackets <<>> (a la N1MM) to slow down JUST the serial #
> > > >
> > > > .? ? ? Slow down only for obviously slow callers
> > > >
> > > > .? ? ? Something else?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Inquiring minds.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I don't want to skew the results, so I won't say (yet) what I do. (and
> > > who
> > > > knows if what I do is even 'right')
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Mike VE9AA
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > Message: 7
> > > > Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2019 00:18:04 -0400
> > > > From: "Bob Shohet, KQ2M" <kq2m@kq2m.com>
> > > > To: <jimk8mr@aol.com>, <ve9aa@nbnet.nb.ca>,
> > > > <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> > > > Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Serial # contests, speed?
> > > > Message-ID: <A2E111074D3949F6BBB370BE544F0B44@BOBWINPC1PC>
> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> > > >
> > > > What is fun is when a super op type calls you and you KNOW that you can
> > > speed up and send it to him at 60 wpm and he will get it the first time
> > and
> > > vice-versa if I I call him/her. Get?s the blood pumping a little faster
> > > and puts a smile on my face (and hopefully theirs). :-) And there
> > are
> > > some slow sending ops that can copy qrq easily ? but just can?t send
> > fast ?
> > > and your turning up the speed to send to them is like a knowing handshake
> > > saluting their copying skill ? ?Hey I know who you are ? you?re a really
> > > good op so I am going to send fast to you!?.
> > > >
> > > > It also gets the attention of the pileup ? makes them listen and wonder
> > > what is going on. If they are listening then they are not transmitting
> > > which means that when the weak guy calls you will copy him and work him.
> > > Sometimes that weak guy is a polar path mult that you would never have
> > > heard if/when everyone was calling at once!
> > > >
> > > > It pays to slow down if cndx are disturbed and the signals start to
> > > sound auroral and/or of have significant flutter (like the W1 path to
> > JA) ?
> > > if you are sending fast you will be harder to understand and callers may
> > > pass you by.
> > > >
> > > > 73
> > > >
> > > > Bob KQ2M
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > From: K8MR via CQ-Contest
> > > > Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 10:15 PM
> > > > To: ve9aa@nbnet.nb.ca ; cq-contest@contesting.com
> > > > Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Serial # contests, speed?
> > > >
> > > > I'm of a keep it at the same speed style - I don't think the 300
> > > milliseconds one saves by sending 5NN at warp speed compensates for the
> > > other guy's brain having to shift gears to copy what I'm sending.
> > > >
> > > > I judge just how fast I'm sending by the nature of the pileup (assuming
> > > I have one!). The bigger the pileup, the safer it is to go fast, as it is
> > > quite likely the guy you're working just listened to your previous QSO
> > and
> > > knows how to increment a number.
> > > >
> > > > Maybe not so much in serial number contests, but in a no-brain exchange
> > > contest (i.e. CQWW) sending on the fast side puts a sense of urgency for
> > > the other guy to call you now.
> > > >
> > > > And as a contest wears on, yes, sending somewhat slower is a good
> > > strategy. And if for some reason (hopefully other than you got spotted
> > with
> > > a busted call) you do get a small pileup, go ahead and bump up the speed
> > a
> > > bit.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 73 - Jim K8MR
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Mike Smith VE9AA <ve9aa@nbnet.nb.ca>
> > > > To: cq-contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> > > > Sent: Mon, Mar 11, 2019 9:58 pm
> > > > Subject: [CQ-Contest] Serial # contests, speed?
> > > >
> > > > For contests like RDX and WPX where the exchange is a serial #, do you:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > . Go as fast as always. (34-36wpm) , risking your qso partner
> > > busting
> > > > the #,but keeping rate high.
> > > >
> > > > . Go a bit slower (30-32wpm), hoping the QRS improves the copy &
> > > > reduces busted exchanges.
> > > >
> > > > . Send everything just as fast as normal (whatever that speed is),
> > > but
> > > > use brackets <<>> (a la N1MM) to slow down JUST the serial #
> > > >
> > > > . Slow down only for obviously slow callers
> > > >
> > > > . Something else?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Inquiring minds.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I don't want to skew the results, so I won't say (yet) what I do. (and
> > > who
> > > > knows if what I do is even 'right')
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Mike VE9AA
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > CQ-Contest mailing list
> > > > CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> > > > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > Message: 8
> > > > Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2019 05:25:58 -0400
> > > > From: Ed K1EP <k1ep.list@gmail.com>
> > > > To: jimk8mr@aol.com
> > > > Cc: ve9aa@nbnet.nb.ca, cq Contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> > > > Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Serial # contests, speed?
> > > > Message-ID:
> > > > <CAKR4uUNq7qoQ2XRqRA=UmLPm9WOxg21na9sKUL8m8a8nQQOXDQ@mail.gmail.com
> > >
> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> > > >
> > > > What I don't get are those who send at warp speed, but pause a second
> > or
> > > > two before sending the exchange. Same amount of time if you just
> > > eliminated
> > > > the pause and sent at non-warp speed.
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Mar 11, 2019, 23:41 K8MR via CQ-Contest <
> > > cq-contest@contesting.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> I'm of a keep it at the same speed style - I don't think the 300
> > > >> milliseconds one saves by sending 5NN at warp speed compensates for
> > the
> > > >> other guy's brain having to shift gears to copy what I'm sending.
> > > >> I judge just how fast I'm sending by the nature of the pileup
> > (assuming
> > > I
> > > >> have one!). The bigger the pileup, the safer it is to go fast, as it
> > is
> > > >> quite likely the guy you're working just listened to your previous QSO
> > > and
> > > >> knows how to increment a number.
> > > >>
> > > >> Maybe not so much in serial number contests, but in a no-brain
> > exchange
> > > >> contest (i.e. CQWW) sending on the fast side puts a sense of urgency
> > for
> > > >> the other guy to call you now.
> > > >>
> > > >> And as a contest wears on, yes, sending somewhat slower is a good
> > > >> strategy. And if for some reason (hopefully other than you got spotted
> > > with
> > > >> a busted call) you do get a small pileup, go ahead and bump up the
> > > speed a
> > > >> bit.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> 73 - Jim K8MR
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> From: Mike Smith VE9AA <ve9aa@nbnet.nb.ca>
> > > >> To: cq-contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> > > >> Sent: Mon, Mar 11, 2019 9:58 pm
> > > >> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Serial # contests, speed?
> > > >>
> > > >> For contests like RDX and WPX where the exchange is a serial #, do
> > you:
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> . Go as fast as always. (34-36wpm) , risking your qso partner
> > > busting
> > > >> the #,but keeping rate high.
> > > >>
> > > >> . Go a bit slower (30-32wpm), hoping the QRS improves the copy &
> > > >> reduces busted exchanges.
> > > >>
> > > >> . Send everything just as fast as normal (whatever that speed
> > is),
> > > but
> > > >> use brackets <<>> (a la N1MM) to slow down JUST the serial #
> > > >>
> > > >> . Slow down only for obviously slow callers
> > > >>
> > > >> . Something else?
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Inquiring minds.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> I don't want to skew the results, so I won't say (yet) what I do. (and
> > > who
> > > >> knows if what I do is even 'right')
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Mike VE9AA
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> _______________________________________________
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> > > >> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> > > >> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > Message: 9
> > > > Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2019 05:00:39 -0500
> > > > From: "Bill Parry" <bparry@rgv.rr.com>
> > > > Cc: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> > > > Subject: [CQ-Contest] Serial # contests, speed?
> > > > Message-ID: <000001d4d8ba$7445b8b0$5cd12a10$@rgv.rr.com>
> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> > > >
> > > > I have noticed that I need to send a little slower in JA pileups than
> > in
> > > EU ones. Not sure why but if I try to speed up past 30 in a JA pileup
> > the
> > > pileup starts to dwindle. If the pileup is unruly I DO speed up.
> > > >
> > > > Bill
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: CQ-Contest <cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com> On Behalf Of K9MA
> > > > Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 9:03 PM
> > > > To: Mike Smith VE9AA <ve9aa@nbnet.nb.ca>
> > > > Cc: cq-contest@contesting.com
> > > > Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Serial # contests, speed?
> > > >
> > > > I slow down to the other?s speed, if necessary, and further if
> > > conditions are poor. I think slowing down just for the sn is
> > > counterproductive.
> > > >
> > > > 73,
> > > > Scott K9MA
> > > >
> > > > ----------
> > > >
> > > > Scott Ellington
> > > >
> > > > --- via iPad
> > > >
> > > >> On Mar 11, 2019, at 6:44 PM, Mike Smith VE9AA <ve9aa@nbnet.nb.ca>
> > > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> For contests like RDX and WPX where the exchange is a serial #, do
> > you:
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> . Go as fast as always. (34-36wpm) , risking your qso partner
> > > busting
> > > >> the #,but keeping rate high.
> > > >>
> > > >> . Go a bit slower (30-32wpm), hoping the QRS improves the copy &
> > > >> reduces busted exchanges.
> > > >>
> > > >> . Send everything just as fast as normal (whatever that speed
> > > is), but
> > > >> use brackets <<>> (a la N1MM) to slow down JUST the serial #
> > > >>
> > > >> . Slow down only for obviously slow callers
> > > >>
> > > >> . Something else?
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Inquiring minds.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> I don't want to skew the results, so I won't say (yet) what I do. (and
> > > >> who knows if what I do is even 'right')
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Mike VE9AA
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Mike, Coreen & Corey
> > > >>
> > > >> Keswick Ridge, NB
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> _______________________________________________
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> > > >> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> > > >> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
> > > >
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> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > Message: 10
> > > > Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2019 11:17:48 +0000 (UTC)
> > > > From: jpescatore@aol.com
> > > > To: CQ-Contest@CONTESTING.COM
> > > > Subject: [CQ-Contest] Serial # contests, speed?
> > > > Message-ID: <939833448.4053654.1552389468740@mail.yahoo.com>
> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> > > >
> > > > I'll generally stay at high speed unless the caller is obviously
> > slower.
> > > Then I will send their callsign back full speed and hit the PageDown key
> > a
> > > few times before the variable part of the exchange, then back up.?
> > > > For information free exchanges, like CQ WW, I don't slow down. For
> > NAQP,
> > > SS, FD and others that get lots of new or part timers, I don't speed up.
> > On
> > > VHF tests, I send as if I was using a straight key...
> > > > 73 John K3TN
> > > >
> > > > ------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > Message: 11
> > > > Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2019 07:35:47 -0400
> > > > From: Dave Edmonds <dave@pkministrywebs.com>
> > > > To: Jim Stahl <jimk8mr@aol.com>
> > > > Cc: Mike Smith VE9AA <ve9aa@nbnet.nb.ca>, "
> > cq-contest@contesting.com"
> > > > <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> > > > Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Serial # contests, speed?
> > > > Message-ID:
> > > > <CAHQrxhKcjm4OYZ4Oo=gLxbZqoj-WkT1+iX8GE6tpQAR7gtnGYw@mail.gmail.com
> > >
> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> > > >
> > > > Amen K8MR!!!!!
> > > >
> > > > The comment about a sense of urgency is 100% DEAD ON! i never
> > considered
> > > > this before, but Jim is right. It's also upbeat and energetic...Those
> > are
> > > > always positive!
> > > >
> > > > Please do not change your CW speed during your exchange!... If you do,
> > > I'll
> > > > probably ask for a repeat. When I hear a 599 or 5NN (or the first
> > element
> > > > of the exchange) at 40 wpm, my brain is primed to copy the rest of the
> > > > exchange at 40 wpm. Please oh please keep it constant. There's nothing
> > > for
> > > > difficult than copying variable speed transmissions...Who started this
> > > > weird technique anyway?
> > > >
> > > > Have you ever heard W1AW speed copy tests? They don't change the speed
> > > with
> > > > every other word. Perhaps they should create one and call it the
> > > contesters
> > > > variable speed copy test. When I took my 20 wpm test at the FCC offices
> > > in
> > > > Atlanta, New Orleans and Greenville hamfest in the lat 70's, they
> > didn't
> > > > switch it up either.
> > > >
> > > > Frankly, even SS is pretty easy at the 36-40 range.
> > > >
> > > > This is a bit off the subject, but still relevant...Four more CW truths
> > > > that drive me to the 'funny farm'.
> > > >
> > > > 1. If you run in a contest, please don't set your CQ speed faster than
> > > you
> > > > can actually copy CW.
> > > >
> > > > 2. Don't use phonetics on CW. I asked someone for a repeat recently and
> > > > they spelled out the letter that I was mission... Holy moly... Just
> > send
> > > > the letter a few times.
> > > >
> > > > 3. I'll add one more... I hear the good old "Please copy" on CW too.
> > > WHAT!
> > > >
> > > > 4. Please leave enough space between CQs for a guy with a 6-character
> > > > callsign to reply at a reasonable speed. This weekend, I had to reply
> > at
> > > 44
> > > > wpm to fit my callsign in the GAP. I'm now calling this the 'CQ GAP'.
> > > >
> > > > Playing a little Prince "Let's Go Crazy", "Tom Sawyer" by Rush or some
> > > fast
> > > > Phil Collins vinyl during your breaks will also help keep your speed up
> > > > when you return.
> > > >
> > > > 73s Dave WN4AFP
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 11:41 PM K8MR via CQ-Contest <
> > > > cq-contest@contesting.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> I'm of a keep it at the same speed style - I don't think the 300
> > > >> milliseconds one saves by sending 5NN at warp speed compensates for
> > the
> > > >> other guy's brain having to shift gears to copy what I'm sending.
> > > >> I judge just how fast I'm sending by the nature of the pileup
> > (assuming
> > > I
> > > >> have one!). The bigger the pileup, the safer it is to go fast, as it
> > is
> > > >> quite likely the guy you're working just listened to your previous QSO
> > > and
> > > >> knows how to increment a number.
> > > >>
> > > >> Maybe not so much in serial number contests, but in a no-brain
> > exchange
> > > >> contest (i.e. CQWW) sending on the fast side puts a sense of urgency
> > for
> > > >> the other guy to call you now.
> > > >>
> > > >> And as a contest wears on, yes, sending somewhat slower is a good
> > > >> strategy. And if for some reason (hopefully other than you got spotted
> > > with
> > > >> a busted call) you do get a small pileup, go ahead and bump up the
> > > speed a
> > > >> bit.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> 73 - Jim K8MR
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> From: Mike Smith VE9AA <ve9aa@nbnet.nb.ca>
> > > >> To: cq-contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> > > >> Sent: Mon, Mar 11, 2019 9:58 pm
> > > >> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Serial # contests, speed?
> > > >>
> > > >> For contests like RDX and WPX where the exchange is a serial #, do
> > you:
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> . Go as fast as always. (34-36wpm) , risking your qso partner
> > > busting
> > > >> the #,but keeping rate high.
> > > >>
> > > >> . Go a bit slower (30-32wpm), hoping the QRS improves the copy &
> > > >> reduces busted exchanges.
> > > >>
> > > >> . Send everything just as fast as normal (whatever that speed
> > is),
> > > but
> > > >> use brackets <<>> (a la N1MM) to slow down JUST the serial #
> > > >>
> > > >> . Slow down only for obviously slow callers
> > > >>
> > > >> . Something else?
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Inquiring minds.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> I don't want to skew the results, so I won't say (yet) what I do. (and
> > > who
> > > >> knows if what I do is even 'right')
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Mike VE9AA
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> _______________________________________________
> > > >> CQ-Contest mailing list
> > > >> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> > > >> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Dave Edmonds
> > > > PK Ministry Webs
> > > > 864.288.6678
> > > > dave@pkministrywebs.com
> > > > www.pkministrywebs.com
> > > >
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> > Dave Edmonds
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