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Re: [CQ-Contest] Merging Social Media and Contesting

To: "'Edward Sawyer'" <EdwardS@sbelectronics.com>, <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Merging Social Media and Contesting
From: <k5zd@charter.net>
Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2020 11:12:10 -0400
List-post: <mailto:cq-contest@contesting.com>
I am in favor of big stations and remote operations.  Live streaming so
others can hear what it sounds like is also good.  Promoting ham radio and
contesting using social media is great (and needed)!

I share the concerns about when the live PR effort bleeds into soliciting
activity for the station doing this.   The rules are fairly clear that use
of non-amateur means to solicit contacts is prohibited (written back when
people would use the telephone to get multipliers on the air).

In this case, it is impossible to measure the impact or harm.  I.e., we
don't know how much it helped the score or if it would have changed the
order of finish.  Even so, the rules are the rules.  It will be up to the
sponsor to decide where they want to draw the line for their contest.

Randy K5ZD


-----Original Message-----
From: CQ-Contest <cq-contest-bounces+k5zd=charter.net@contesting.com> On
Behalf Of Edward Sawyer
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2020 8:56 PM
To: peter.voelpel@t-online.de; cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Merging Social Media and Contesting

IF you watch the video, you will see broadcasting of frequency on the
sidebar chats being displayed - self spotting.  Using a chat room.  And by
asking people on line to share the feed with their friends and get on and
work him - he is soliciting contacts by non-amateur means.  

Ed  N1UR


From: Peter Voelpel [peter.voelpel@t-online.de] On Behalf Of
dj7ww@t-online.de [dj7ww@t-online.de]
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2020 8:24 PM
To: Edward Sawyer; cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] Merging Social Media and Contesting

Ed,

what numerous rules violations do you have in mind?
So far I am not aware of any.

73
Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: CQ-Contest
[mailto:cq-contest-bounces+dj7ww=t-online.de@contesting.com] On Behalf Of
Edward Sawyer

I would suggest that anyone curious take a listen to the live stream
recording on YouTube and look at the interaction Ray has with the "live chat
room" on his website with the contacts being made.

Asking people to look for him on the Cluster to see where he is.

Even as an assisted operation, it demonstrates numerous rules violations as
recorded.

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