I can kinda see where you’re coming from Jeff, but what we’ve seen here is a
contest with real time log checking (video!) for the masses. It also gives the
unfair advantage of hearing/seeing your QSO. Isn’t everything supposed to take
place on the air?
This is a radio contest. All the publicity in most contests needs to take
place in advance. Yes, folks spot you (or the RBN does in a CW contest), but
you aren’t ASKING to be spotted, nor do people think they’ll be recorded and
played back in real time in 99.999999% of cases.
So maybe they are no long radio contests, they are popularity contests and
using the Internet is OK ? (tongue firmly planted in cheek)…where’s EI5DI when
we need him? <g>
I think we all probably know multiple (contest) rules were being broken.
Yes, I too think it was predominantly about RHR, so if I was Ray W2RE and yeah,
I’m not, I would just send in a check log knowing that I didn’t follow the
rules.
Lots and lots of free advertising for RHR !
Mike VE9AA
Mike, Coreen & Corey
Keswick Ridge, NB
From: ku8e [mailto:ku8e@ku8e.com]
Sent: March 12, 2020 12:59 AM
To: Mike Smith VE9AA; cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Merging Social Media and Contesting
So I guess could you could argue that posting your planned operation on
something like NG3K is soliciting contacts? You are doing this on the internet.
Also when someone spots you on the DX Cluster someone else is soliciting
contacts for you. How many times have you spotted someone on the DX cluster who
is a friend of yours operating from the islands? I think everyone has at some
point or another. I really see no harm in doing any of this. Same with doing a
livestream. I think the intent for those who do this is to promote contesting.
Personally I don't like or operate SOA but it's too late in the game to ban it.
You also have to take into consideration that many people who operate DX
contests aren't really hardcore contesters.
I'm pretty sure that W2RE's livestream was to promote RHR and not to try to get
some competitive advantage.
Jeff
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-------- Original message --------
From: Mike Smith VE9AA <ve9aa@nbnet.nb.ca>
Date: 3/11/20 6:06 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Merging Social Media and Contesting
I am not a lawyer-but pretty sure this is against the rules in most contests
(soliciting QSO's outside and during the competition)
Anyways. we should all be asking ourselves what was the motivation of
posting this video in real time VS. waiting until after the log submittal
deadline!? (ie: If I was DX and thought *MAYBE* I worked W2RE, but wasn't
sure, I could always review the video(log scrubbing) (or watch it in real
time-cheating; doesn't take place on the air).
As for Ray advertising for RHR.maybe/maybe not.that doesn't impact directly
on his score per se, so I don't care about that.
I'm not against Social Media..I'm on there I have learned lots about some of
you and love the interaction between us, but I don't think it belongs in a
radio COMPETITON/contest.
Shouldn't Radiosport events be limited to ON-AIR interactions? (or is it
now an Internet-Radio competition?)
Let's review the rules shall we? Who's up for that?
BTW, I am all for RHR and what Ray is doing. I understand he's a good guy,
doing good work, providing a good service for pay. My comments are strictly
about the competition itself and rules.
MIKE VE9AA
Mike, Coreen & Corey
Keswick Ridge, NB
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