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Re: [CQ-Contest] Remote Operating - Cross County

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Remote Operating - Cross County
From: Mark - N5OT <r-emails@n5ot.com>
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2021 09:10:13 -0500
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Good question Ed.

Mike I think you're stretching that mic cord to the point where it breaks.  I decline to pin a conclusion on the personal opinion of one Canadian radio inspector.

The real questions for contest operations would be about whether or not the control operator really is present, and whether or not that control operator is actually controlling the operations. Even so, if I let my unlicensed daughter operate, she can't exactly enter the CQWW like that.  If I let some ham from another country who is not licensed in the USA use my station via remote control, not sure that op can enter CQWW.

Frankly, CQ and ARRL should simply weigh in with their positions on this question and tell us what it is.  I bet there is very little gray to it at all.

73 - Mark N5OT


On 7/14/2021 8:40 AM, Michael Walker wrote:
Hi Edward

The challenge is, of course, the regulations have not kept up to
technology.

In Canada, I had an Radio Inspector describe remote HF operation as a long
Mic cord.  There are no laws that say the operator has to be sitting in the
same room as the radio station.  You are still governed by the laws based
on the location of the physical transmitter.

Reciprocal licensing only comes into play if you want to use your callsign
while operating from a foreign country.  It does not apply if you are guest
operating (which is what this is).  In fact, you can be a guest operator
without having a license as long as another correctly licensed ham is in
complete control of the station.

73, Mike va3mw



On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 8:09 AM Edward Sawyer <
EdwardS@advanced-conversion.com> wrote:

Actually I don’t believe you are correct.  When you are “in person” in the
country, you are governed by the reciprocal licensing of the 2 countries
for people visiting.  There is nothing in that normal language that
discussing doing that virtually for most countries (maybe some have added
language – not sure).  An internet connection does not make you “in the
country”.  Which is a good thing for tax purposes….



This is in fact the question.



Ed  N1UR



*From:* Michael Walker <va3mw@portcredit.net>
*Sent:* Wednesday, July 14, 2021 8:03 AM
*To:* Edward Sawyer <EdwardS@advanced-conversion.com>
*Cc:* cq-contest@contesting.com
*Subject:* Re: [CQ-Contest] Remote Operating - Cross County



This would be the same if I visited from Canada to the US and visited
someones station and operated a contest from their callsign.  Nothing wrong
with that as long as it doesn't exceed the terms of my license.   Think of
it as a long mic cord.  :)



The question is can I 'keep' the QSO's in my person log?



Good question.



Mike va3mw





On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 9:13 PM Edward Sawyer <
EdwardS@advanced-conversion.com> wrote:

I continue to see postings of scores by a ham outside the US operating a
US based remote site.  The hams do not have their own US callsign and
"borrow" someone else's callsign from the US.  I am pretty sure this is an
illegal operation in the US.  Am I missing something?  Its happening pretty
much every contest now.

Ed  N1UR
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