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Re: [CQ-Contest] ARRL to allow self-spotting in contests

To: "rjairam@gmail.com" <rjairam@gmail.com>, Ken Boasi <n2zn@rochester.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] ARRL to allow self-spotting in contests
From: Hans Brakob <kzerohb@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2022 01:53:14 +0000
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Nice sidestep, Director.

73, de Hans, KØHB
“Just a Boy and his Radio”™
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From: CQ-Contest <cq-contest-bounces+kzerohb=gmail.com@contesting.com> on 
behalf of rjairam@gmail.com <rjairam@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2022 7:24:37 PM
To: Ken Boasi <n2zn@rochester.rr.com>
Cc: Barry W2UP <w2up.co@gmail.com>; CQ-Contest Reflector 
<cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] ARRL to allow self-spotting in contests

The full Board does not make a motion to adopt rules changes anymore.
This goes direct from the PSC to the radiosport department. There is a
PSC report that is adopted (in the consent agenda) but that's about
it. Also, the CAC is actually driving these rule changes now with the
PSC merely approving their recommendations.

Ria
N2RJ

On Wed, Feb 16, 2022 at 4:43 PM Ken Boasi <n2zn@rochester.rr.com> wrote:
>
> I’m not an ARRL apologist, but the CAC has been discussing this since at 
> least a year ago, and made a recommendation for this change in their July 
> meeting.  You can look up the minutes on the ARRL website.  It is task 2020.5.
>
> I presume it was adopted in January at the ARRL Board meeting.
>
> I am not in favor of the change, but I guess I had my chance to comment on 
> this (like the rest of us) over the past year, and failed to do so, either 
> because I wasn’t paying attention, forgot to, or just assumed that “they 
> would never do something like that”. Lesson learned…
>
> 73, Ken N2ZN
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Feb 16, 2022, at 3:35 PM, Barry W2UP <w2up.co@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > So which contest software will be the first to add, "self-spot every 15
> > seconds"?
> >
> > Seems ARRL is back on its secrecy kick.  I just renewed my ARRL membership
> > for the 52nd year.  It may be my last.
> >
> > Barry W2UP
> >
> >> On Wed, Feb 16, 2022 at 10:36 AM PY2NY <py2ny.vitor@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Good afternoon.
> >>
> >> I don't know exactly what to say or think about. My first impression
> >> isn't good, including for those guys that are always "Assisted".
> >> DXCluster will have thousands of self-spots.
> >> Thanks God I'm always "no-Assisted"...
> >>
> >> 73 DX  and see you all next weekend.
> >> .
> >> ..
> >> ...
> >> --------------------------------
> >> PY2NY / SP9NY / V26NY  - Vitor Luis Aidar dos Santos
> >> http://military-jeep-brasil.blogspot.com.br/
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Em qua., 16 de fev. de 2022 às 09:23, Randy Thompson <k5zd@outlook.com>
> >> escreveu:
> >>
> >>> From the ARRL Contest Update today:
> >>>
> >>> "New Rules in effect for all ARRL HF Contests in June
> >>> Starting with the ARRL International Digital Contest, in all categories
> >>> that allow assistance (Unlimited), the use of online and other
> >> non-amateur
> >>> radio platforms including but not limited to social media, live video
> >>> streaming, and internet chat rooms will be allowed. In all Unlimited and
> >>> Multioperator categories, the prohibition of self-spotting, and asking
> >>> another station to spot you, will also be removed."
> >>>
> >>> Wow.  It was one thing for the VHF contests to allow use of chat rooms
> >> and
> >>> telephone calls, now this is extended to all HF contests. It should be
> >>> interesting to see what unintended consequences result from allowing
> >>> multi-ops and assisted competitors to spot themselves. You could spot
> >>> yourself with every CQ if you wanted to. Or you can call people on the
> >>> phone and ask them to get on the air. Or send out email reminders to work
> >>> you during the contest.
> >>>
> >>> It is likely to have the most impact on SSB to produce spotting equal to
> >>> what the RBN does for CW and RTTY.
> >>>
> >>> For an organization that has always been so timid and conservative on
> >> rule
> >>> changes, the ARRL seems to have sprung this one without much consultation
> >>> with the contest community.  I assume it is in reaction to the W2RE
> >>> incident several years ago in ARRL DX where he used live streaming on
> >>> Facebook during the contest.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Randy K5ZD
> >>>
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