But Ria, what about those of us with small stations who like assisted
S&P? Surely there should be room for those of us who don't want to
self-spot, but find unassisted S&P endless frustration. I'm with you -
surely it would have been better to add a class.
As for the Board not having voted on these new rules, why the heck not?
Surely this isn't the "nobody asked us" defense? If the Board aren't
responsible for what people subordinate to you do, who is?
73, Pete N4ZR
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web server at<http://beta.reversebeacon.net>.
For spots, please use your favorite
"retail" DX cluster.
On 2/16/2022 9:11 PM, rjairam@gmail.com wrote:
Hans, things progressed exactly as some of the harshest critics desired it
to go.
But anyway, everything is in the minutes. There were no motions by the
Board to adopt these rules.
Do I agree with them? My desire was for an “ultra unlimited” category to
have streaming and self spotting. I didn’t get that. I’m one voice.
Do we need to adapt and evolve? Yes.
But I’m glad we kept unassisted, so those who desire legacy contesting have
their sandbox to play in.
Ria
N2RJ
On Wed, Feb 16, 2022 at 8:53 PM Hans Brakob<kzerohb@gmail.com> wrote:
Nice sidestep, Director.
73, de Hans, KØHB
“Just a Boy and his Radio”™
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*From:* CQ-Contest<cq-contest-bounces+kzerohb=gmail.com@contesting.com>
on behalf ofrjairam@gmail.com <rjairam@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Wednesday, February 16, 2022 7:24:37 PM
*To:* Ken Boasi<n2zn@rochester.rr.com>
*Cc:* Barry W2UP<w2up.co@gmail.com>; CQ-Contest Reflector <
cq-contest@contesting.com>
*Subject:* Re: [CQ-Contest] ARRL to allow self-spotting in contests
The full Board does not make a motion to adopt rules changes anymore.
This goes direct from the PSC to the radiosport department. There is a
PSC report that is adopted (in the consent agenda) but that's about
it. Also, the CAC is actually driving these rule changes now with the
PSC merely approving their recommendations.
Ria
N2RJ
On Wed, Feb 16, 2022 at 4:43 PM Ken Boasi<n2zn@rochester.rr.com> wrote:
I’m not an ARRL apologist, but the CAC has been discussing this since at
least a year ago, and made a recommendation for this change in their July
meeting. You can look up the minutes on the ARRL website. It is task
2020.5.
I presume it was adopted in January at the ARRL Board meeting.
I am not in favor of the change, but I guess I had my chance to comment
on this (like the rest of us) over the past year, and failed to do so,
either because I wasn’t paying attention, forgot to, or just assumed that
“they would never do something like that”. Lesson learned…
73, Ken N2ZN
On Feb 16, 2022, at 3:35 PM, Barry W2UP<w2up.co@gmail.com> wrote:
So which contest software will be the first to add, "self-spot every
15
seconds"?
Seems ARRL is back on its secrecy kick. I just renewed my ARRL
membership
for the 52nd year. It may be my last.
Barry W2UP
On Wed, Feb 16, 2022 at 10:36 AM PY2NY<py2ny.vitor@gmail.com> wrote:
Good afternoon.
I don't know exactly what to say or think about. My first impression
isn't good, including for those guys that are always "Assisted".
DXCluster will have thousands of self-spots.
Thanks God I'm always "no-Assisted"...
73 DX and see you all next weekend.
.
..
...
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PY2NY / SP9NY / V26NY - Vitor Luis Aidar dos Santos
http://military-jeep-brasil.blogspot.com.br/
Em qua., 16 de fev. de 2022 às 09:23, Randy Thompson <
k5zd@outlook.com>
escreveu:
From the ARRL Contest Update today:
"New Rules in effect for all ARRL HF Contests in June
Starting with the ARRL International Digital Contest, in all
categories
that allow assistance (Unlimited), the use of online and other
non-amateur
radio platforms including but not limited to social media, live video
streaming, and internet chat rooms will be allowed. In all Unlimited
and
Multioperator categories, the prohibition of self-spotting, and
asking
another station to spot you, will also be removed."
Wow. It was one thing for the VHF contests to allow use of chat
rooms
and
telephone calls, now this is extended to all HF contests. It should
be
interesting to see what unintended consequences result from allowing
multi-ops and assisted competitors to spot themselves. You could spot
yourself with every CQ if you wanted to. Or you can call people on
the
phone and ask them to get on the air. Or send out email reminders to
work
you during the contest.
It is likely to have the most impact on SSB to produce spotting
equal to
what the RBN does for CW and RTTY.
For an organization that has always been so timid and conservative on
rule
changes, the ARRL seems to have sprung this one without much
consultation
with the contest community. I assume it is in reaction to the W2RE
incident several years ago in ARRL DX where he used live streaming on
Facebook during the contest.
Randy K5ZD
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