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Re: [Karlnet] RG-1100 END OF LIFE!

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Subject: Re: [Karlnet] RG-1100 END OF LIFE!
From: "Terry Bomersbach" <terryb@the-cia.net>
Reply-to: karlnet@WISPNotes.com
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 18:55:20 -0600
List-post: <mailto:karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
I can't say officially on this Melvin but I've managed to do routing on the
IP side and bridging on the IPX/SPX side using a COR and TC SOHO 4.x
effectively.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Melvin C. Etheridge" <mele@enia.net>
To: <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 6:34 PM
Subject: Re: [Karlnet] RG-1100 END OF LIFE!


> OK...using the Orinoco ROR/COR software could one do both routing and
> bridging??
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mel
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dan Metcalf" <dan.metcalf@wbsysnet.com>
> To: <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 7:25 PM
> Subject: RE: [Karlnet] RG-1100 END OF LIFE!
>
>
> > Layer 3 is routing
> >
> > It was pretty clear to me once I understood that I created each network
> > and specifieds its interface.
> >
> > It was similar to creating "secondary" networks on cisco routers
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > I don't see how understanding layer 2 and 3 has anything to do with
> > > understanding the routing config interface for Karlnet.  For example,
> > how
> > > does knowing routing/bridging protocols make it easier to understand
> > what
> > > "preferred ip address" is referring to?  Is it clear what interface
> > this
> > > is
> > > supposed to be?  Or that you must specify the _ip_ of the 'remote'
> > > interface
> > > instead of the network number.  Or that you actually have to include a
> > > route
> > > which specifies the ip of the local interface even though the default
> > > gateway is specified elsewhere.  I don't have any problems configuring
> > > routing using Karlnet now, but I had to ask Charles a lot of questions
> > in
> > > the beginning to get these kinds of things answered.
> > >
> > > Am I wrong about this?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Mark Wauchope, Director of Engineering, Kivanet Inc
> > > 776 East Second Avenue Suite 207 Durango, CO  81301
> > > 970-749-2711  http://www.ekiva.net/  mark@ekiva.net
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: karlnet-admin@WISPNotes.com [mailto:karlnet-admin@WISPNotes.com]
> > On
> > > Behalf Of Dan Metcalf
> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 4:39 PM
> > > To: karlnet@WISPNotes.com
> > > Subject: RE: [Karlnet] RG-1100 END OF LIFE!
> > >
> > >
> > > Well granted not everything is "clear" with karlnet, if you understand
> > > layer
> > > 2 and layer 3 protocol configuration on network devices like linux,
> > > solaris,
> > > cisco, (windows), you can configure "karlnet" with out too much effort
> > >
> > >
> > > Dan Metcalf
> > > Wireless Broadband Systems
> > > http://www.wbsysnet.com/
> > > 877-685-0578
> > > dan.metcalf@wbsysnet.com
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: karlnet-admin@WISPNotes.com
> > [mailto:karlnet-admin@WISPNotes.com]
> > > On
> > > > Behalf Of Mark Wauchope
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 6:16 PM
> > > > To: karlnet@WISPNotes.com
> > > > Subject: RE: [Karlnet] RG-1100 END OF LIFE!
> > > >
> > > > Once again Charles, this support _has nothing to do with the
> > > hardware_.
> > > > It
> > > > has to do with Karlnet's convoluted and undocumented software.  We
> > are
> > > > paying a lot for the software and that is what entitles us to this
> > > > support, not the hardware.  If Karlnet knew how to write a routing
> > > > interface
> > > GUI or
> > > > give a good command line interface, you would likely not have to
> > spend
> > > > this much time on support.  Blame Karlnet for your support costs.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Mark Wauchope, Director of Engineering, Kivanet Inc
> > > > 776 East Second Avenue Suite 207 Durango, CO  81301 970-749-2711
> > > > http://www.ekiva.net/  mark@ekiva.net
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: karlnet-admin@WISPNotes.com
> > [mailto:karlnet-admin@WISPNotes.com]
> > > On
> > > > Behalf Of Charles Chia Sheng Wu
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 4:13 PM
> > > > To: karlnet@WISPNotes.com
> > > > Subject: RE: [Karlnet] RG-1100 END OF LIFE!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >No, in my opinion, which comes from 30 years of being in business,
> > > not
> > > > >one supplier on this or any other related list, has a clue of how
> > to
> > > > >make it
> > > > big
> > > > >and control a market.
> > > >
> > > > >Let me relate a story which I have experienced:
> > > >
> > > > >Several years ago I knew a man who started buying plastic beads and
> > > > >doll heads in Asia to resell to distributors and retailers in the
> > US.
> > > >
> > > > yes...but how much support does a plastic bead and doll head
> > require?
> > > >
> > > > did your friend have people calling him everyday, 24x7x365, asking
> > him
> > > how
> > > > to put beads on dolls, or how to assemble his doll heads, or why
> > > doesn't
> > > > his
> > > > doll head do this? or that?
> > > >
> > > > >The man's philosophy of pricing his product was simple: "make a
> > > LITTLE
> > > > >BIT on everything you sell, then SELL THE HELL out of it"
> > > >
> > > > yes...but COGS consists of a lot more than just the cost of the
> > > product
> > > > and
> > > > shipping, what about support, R&D, etc...
> > > >
> > > > >3 years later, this man was the largest importer in the entire
> > Great
> > > > >Lakes Area (yes, including Chicago...).
> > > >
> > > > good for him
> > > >
> > > > >The man wasn't trying to make 25-50-75% over his total cost on an
> > > item.
> > > > >He worked on a 4-8% net margin.
> > > >
> > > > lemme tell you, I am no where close to 25% gross margins
> > > >
> > > > but you're friend didn't have any support costs...
> > > >
> > > > Jim, think about it, several months ago, you decided to convert your
> > > > network from a bridged network to a routed network, do you remember
> > > > who wrote
> > > out
> > > > your ENTIRE CONFIG
> > > >
> > > > and what did I charge you??? $0?
> > > >
> > > > what would you have paid to hire someone w/ a CCIE
> > > >
> > > > -Charles
> > > >
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