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RE: [Karlnet] RG ISP Base

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Subject: RE: [Karlnet] RG ISP Base
From: "Nate McLain" <nate@ctrail.net>
Reply-to: Karlnet Mailing List <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 22:31:55 -0600
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What kind of a price are you getting for the APs & SUs now?
Last time I checked they were still about $500 for the SUs.



-----Original Message-----
From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
[mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com]On Behalf Of Bob Hrbek
Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 10:27 PM
To: Karlnet Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Karlnet] RG ISP Base


Backhauls now....CPE's next week.  We deployed them as backhauls initially
and REALLY like them (except for their 10-mile dishes but we are fixing that
with some radiowaves 2' dishes).  Trango is due to release some new gear in
march that (from the sounds of it) should kick the pants off anything out
there.  They recently dropped their prices as well.  It really is good
stuff.  Very much like some of the TC stuff though....high latency until the
link is utilized decently but they did do some ptp fixes in the recent fw
release.  If there is a single SU configured, it doesn't poll and you'll get
2ms- latency.

We have one trango AP and 2 10-mile SU's at this point but I've got a P.O.
for 4 AP's and 10 CPE's.  I'm sold on the gear.  Cheap reliable and 6-7mbps.
(good, fast and cheap!)

-bob
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nate McLain" <nate@ctrail.net>
To: "Karlnet Mailing List" <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 10:10 PM
Subject: RE: [Karlnet] RG ISP Base


> How do you like those Trango units?
> I was pretty impressed with the Trango & Waverider equipment at WISPCON2.
> Are you only using them for backhaul units only?
> Do ya have any APs out there with CPE?
>
> Nate
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
> [mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com]On Behalf Of Bob Hrbek
> Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 10:06 PM
> To: Karlnet Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Karlnet] RG ISP Base
>
>
> Hmm, I've got an AP-1000 setup like this..
>
> internet ~~~~trango~~~AP-1000~~~~~AP-1000~~~~Rg-1000  All routed but I see
> 33-40 ms pings. 14 customers
>
> at another site I have
>
> internet ~~~~trango~~~ap-1000~~~RG-1000cpe   Bridged, I see 3 - 10 ms ping
> times.  36 customers
>
>
> I wonder how much your latency will drop.
>
>
> -bob
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Nate McLain" <nate@ctrail.net>
> To: "Karlnet Mailing List" <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
> Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 9:55 PM
> Subject: RE: [Karlnet] RG ISP Base
>
>
> > I usually get about 300-600Kbps.
> > And my ping times from my house are around 14-22ms. But that is going
> across
> > my trusty Breezecom Pro.11 equipment to get there first... So Im not a
> good
> > candidate for latency since i have a extra hop or so. But we are going
to
> > replace it with the AP1000 pretty soon and then we will be able to see
if
> > the throughput increases or not.
> >
> > At times the throughput might go down to 200Kbps. But since we are
selling
> > 128Kb connections it isnt that big of a problem. The clients dont see
any
> > problem.. Just the guys that try to squeeze as much out of it as we
can..
> > ;-)
> >
> > Nate
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
> > [mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com]On Behalf Of Bob Hrbek
> > Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 9:41 PM
> > To: Karlnet Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: [Karlnet] RG ISP Base
> >
> >
> > 20 users on an RG-1000 huh??? what is your throughput like?  How about
> > latency (pings)?
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Nate McLain" <nate@ctrail.net>
> > To: <mark@ekiva.net>; "Karlnet Mailing List" <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
> > Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 9:32 PM
> > Subject: RE: [Karlnet] RG ISP Base
> >
> >
> > > We have a RG-1000 that is running Turbocell v 3.88 and it doesn't have
> the
> > 8
> > > user limitation that the newer versions have.
> > > We have 20 users on this base station and it runs just fine.
> > > So there is something in the software that is stopping us from adding
> more
> > > then 8 on the a RG. Otherwise we would probably upgrade our licenses.

> But
> > we
> > > will just upgrade it with a AP-1000 instead.
> > >
> > > Nate
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
> > > [mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com]On Behalf Of Mark Wauchope
> > > Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 7:38 PM
> > > To: 'Karlnet Mailing List'
> > > Subject: RE: [Karlnet] RG ISP Base
> > >
> > >
> > > That has nothing to do with it.  A 486 running that lean of an OS can
> > > support more than 8 subscribers easily.  KarlNet does not allow more
> > > than 8 subscribers most likely so you will be required to get more
> > > expensive hardware.  They must have some deal with Proxim so users
will
> > > be forced to upgrade to the AP-1000 if they want to support more
> > > subscribers.  It is purely a marketing strategy.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Mark Wauchope, Director of Engineering, Kivanet Inc
> > > 776 East Second Avenue Suite 207 Durango, CO  81301
> > > 970-749-2711  http://www.ekiva.net/  mark@ekiva.net
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
> > > > [mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com] On Behalf Of Charles
> > > > Chia Sheng Wu
> > > > Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 4:42 PM
> > > > To: Karlnet Mailing List
> > > > Subject: RE: [Karlnet] RG ISP Base
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > the RG only has a x486 processor
> > > >
> > > > -Charles
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
> > > > [mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com]On Behalf Of Andrew
> > > > Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 5:24 PM
> > > > To: karlnet@WISPNotes.com
> > > > Subject: [Karlnet] RG ISP Base
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Can anybody advise what the Client limit is on an RG1000 with
> > > > ISP Base load.
> > > >
> > > > I assume it is 8 x subscribers, but want to know if that is a
> > > > physical limitation at the MAC level or a performance
> > > > recommendation that can be over subscribed.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks in advance
> > > > Andrew
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