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To: "'Karlnet Mailing List'" <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
Subject: RE: [Karlnet] new karlnet units
From: "Kevin Knuth" <kknuth@karlnet.com>
Reply-to: Karlnet Mailing List <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 17:51:05 -0500
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John,

I think Charles will have some in his booth.

I will try to get the actual antenna we used in testing- the antenna
melted, but the board kept working!

Kevin

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Kevin R. Knuth
Business Development Manager
North America
260-424-9690 Regional Office
614-822-5275 Corporate Office
kknuth@karlnet.com
www.karlnet.com
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-----Original Message-----
From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
[mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com] On Behalf Of John Scrivner
Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2003 8:54 AM
To: Karlnet Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Karlnet] new karlnet units


Kevin,
You guys better cook a few of these boards up for everyone to see at 
WISPCON. Shipping boards that fry in the heat can cause some 
credibillity problems. I want to buy these. I won't until I am convinced

they will be reliable.
Scriv


Kevin Knuth wrote:

>Caleb,
>
>The heat issue caused memory to be corrupted and therefore the unit 
>would fail.  It is a PoE issue only, straight power did not seem to 
>cause the issue.  Small percentage is a little harder:  My BEST GUESS 
>is less than 20% of the boards we sold have the issue, and frankly, if 
>you are in a cooler climate, it will probably not affect you at all.  
>The issue seemed to cause issues in MO, OK, and TX for the most part.
>
>This is a well known issue, it has been discussed on the lists quite a 
>bit.  I am sorry you feel left in the dark!
>
>Kevin
>
>**************************************
>Kevin R. Knuth
>Business Development Manager
>North America
>260-424-9690 Regional Office
>614-822-5275 Corporate Office
>kknuth@karlnet.com
>www.karlnet.com
>**************************************
> 
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com 
>[mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com] On Behalf Of Caleb Carroll
>Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 2:48 PM
>To: Karlnet Mailing List
>Subject: RE: Re[2]: [Karlnet] new karlnet units
>
>
>Kevin,
>
>What exactly is the "heat issue" and "corruption issue"?  Is this a PoE

>issue only?  voltage related issue only?  Please, explain this fully. 
>Also, is there any way to identify the small "percentage" of boards 
>that are going to have this issue?
>
>I hate being left in the dark about issues that Karlnet knows about. 
>(I'm sure there are more known issues than just this one)  If there is 
>an issue, why not inform everyone about the issue instead of keeping it

>a big secret and pissing everyone off?
>
>
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>
>On 2003-Oct-17 at 12:30 AM Kevin Knuth wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Well, we do use a fan in our indoor enclosure!
>>
>>But we have solved the heat issue by SPEEDING UP the processor and
>>SLOWING DOWN the memory.  The memory was overheating and that 
>>apparently caused the corruption issue.
>>
>>All the boards we are shipping now have been modified to fix this
>>issue. If you have a board that you would like to switch out, we can
do
>>    
>>
>
>  
>
>>so for you.  HOWEVER- the board you get will be a refurbished board.
>>And if you have not yet had heat problems, you may never!  Only a 
>>percentage of the boards were affected at all.
>>
>>Kevin
>>
>>**************************************
>>Kevin R. Knuth
>>Business Development Manager
>>North America
>>260-424-9690 Regional Office
>>614-822-5275 Corporate Office
>>kknuth@karlnet.com
>>www.karlnet.com
>>**************************************
>>
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
>>[mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com] On Behalf Of Norm Young
>>Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 9:42 PM
>>To: Karlnet Mailing List
>>Subject: Re: Re[2]: [Karlnet] new karlnet units
>>
>>
>>Use a fan.
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Jon Loosle" <web@s1i.net>
>>To: "Karlnet Mailing List" <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
>>Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 5:38 PM
>>Subject: Re[2]: [Karlnet] new karlnet units
>>
>>
>>How was the head issue resolved?
>>
>>*********** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***********
>>
>>On 10/16/03 at 5:23 PM Bob Hrbek wrote:
>>
>>    
>>
>>>It's all the communication that Karlnet does....it just got 
>>>lost...I'm sure.
>>>
>>>
>>>;)
>>>
>>>-bob
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Kevin Knuth" <kknuth@karlnet.com>
>>>To: "'Karlnet Mailing List'" <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
>>>Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 5:16 PM
>>>Subject: RE: [Karlnet] new karlnet units
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>All,
>>>>
>>>>I thought the word was already out- the heat issue is resolved. 
>>>>Voltage is still important, as it applies to PoE applications.
>>>>
>>>>I have documents that tell you the actual voltage you will need for 
>>>>various lengths of CAT5 runs of PoE.  Offlist if you want those.
>>>>
>>>>Kevin
>>>>
>>>>**************************************
>>>>Kevin R. Knuth
>>>>Business Development Manager
>>>>North America
>>>>260-424-9690 Regional Office
>>>>614-822-5275 Corporate Office
>>>>kknuth@karlnet.com
>>>>www.karlnet.com
>>>>**************************************
>>>> 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com 
>>>>[mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com] On Behalf Of Dan Metcalf
>>>>Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 11:18 AM
>>>>To: 'Karlnet Mailing List'
>>>>Subject: RE: [Karlnet] new karlnet units
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Yes I have seen heat issues w/ the WPBase boards as well, voltage is

>>>>important and proper heat sinks
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>[mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com]
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>On Behalf Of Nate McLain
>>>>>Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 1:08 PM
>>>>>To: Karlnet Mailing List
>>>>>Subject: RE: [Karlnet] new karlnet units
>>>>>
>>>>>mainly heat issues with the WPBase boards..
>>>>>Or just general lockup problems with them no matter what version
>>>>>of
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>>KN
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>we
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>have on it.
>>>>>The reliability just isn't there with the boards.
>>>>>
>>>>>I have used the UBICOM units but I hate the fact that you can't
>>>>>get
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>>to
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>>them via the configurator.
>>>>>
>>>>>We are moving towards Waverider on about all of our new wipops.
>>>>>But
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>>we
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>>will still use KN on our existing KN network.
>>>>>
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
>>>>>[mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com]On Behalf Of Dan Metcalf
>>>>>Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 11:33 AM
>>>>>To: 'Karlnet Mailing List'
>>>>>Subject: RE: [Karlnet] new karlnet units
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>What types of issues are you having w/ the WPBase boards (you
>>>>>using orinocco radio's?)
>>>>>
>>>>>The kn50 is a ubicom system
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>[mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com]
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Behalf Of Nate McLain
>>>>>>Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 11:18 AM
>>>>>>To: Karlnet Mailing List
>>>>>>Subject: RE: [Karlnet] new karlnet units
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Does the radio function any better then the WPBase boards?? We
>>>>>>haven't had anything but problems with those boards... Are they 
>>>>>>using the same radio board or are they a ubicom based
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>radio?
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>>Nate
>>>>>>
>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
>>>>>>[mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com]On Behalf Of Dan Metcalf
>>>>>>Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 10:13 AM
>>>>>>To: 'Karlnet Mailing List'
>>>>>>Subject: [Karlnet] new karlnet units
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I recently had a chance to look at the new kn-50 embedded antennas
>>>>>>setup, and I was very impressed with the entire system, from
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>hardware,
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>>to software, and onboard speaker with "audio" alignment
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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