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Re: [Karlnet] Strange DNS issue

To: "Brett Hays" <bretth@htonline.net>,"Karlnet Mailing List" <karlnet@wispnotes.com>
Subject: Re: [Karlnet] Strange DNS issue
From: "Norm Young" <lists@applegatebroadband.net>
Reply-to: Norm Young <lists@applegatebroadband.net>,Karlnet Mailing List <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 09:30:45 -0800
List-post: <mailto:karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
No, the customers routers WAN's are set to a static IP, and the LAN side
information that acts as the DHCP server has the DNS server information set
on it manually.  Customers are bridged to the APs via the KN-50/Ubicom or
have SR-4000 running on a RG (which is performing the routing function via
NAT/DHCP).   Problem is that for some reason those DNS settings are now not
(in some cases) making it down to the workstation level---and this after
working smoothly for a year and a half.  Even stranger yet is that the
problem is manifested over a range of router brands and workstation OSes.

Norm


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brett Hays" <bretth@htonline.net>
To: "Norm Young" <lists@applegatebroadband.net>; "Karlnet Mailing List"
<karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 4:26 AM
Subject: Re: [Karlnet] Strange DNS issue


> Are the customers' routers obtaining their dns settings via dhcp from your
> ap's?
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Norm Young" <lists@applegatebroadband.net>
> To: "Karlnet Mailing List" <karlnet@wispnotes.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 1:39 AM
> Subject: [Karlnet] Strange DNS issue
>
>
> > In the last week or so, I've been getting complaints from customers who
> > say
> > that they have problems accessing the Internet via their web browsers,
ie;
> > page not found on a sporadic basis.
> >
> > On investigation, I found that the problem is that their machines,
either
> > (so far) WinXP or Win98 have the wrong DNS settings, namely the DNS
server
> > is set to the gateway (LAN) address!  All these systems are attached to
> > routers of various flavors, Linksys, Dlink, Orinoco, etc,  which
> > invariably
> > have the correct DNS server settings on it, DHCP is on and work (for
> > assigning IPs anyway), but go to the workstations and the DNS server
(only
> > one) is always set to the gateway IP.    A mix of bridged customers
(with
> > their routers managed by us) and NATed (using SR-4000) are having this
> > problem.
> >
> > The really odd thing is that sometimes having the DNS server set to the
> > gateway IP seems to work (perhaps because of some DNS caching in the
OS?)
> > for some domain names.  Others fail, I'm told.  (I haven't been able to
> > see
> > this in person...but I've talked enough people through it to get a good
> > idea
> > of what's happening.)
> >
> > Our DNS servers are primary; a Mikrotik router using DNS cacheing (which
> > also happens to be our border router), and then a secondary DNS server
> > provided by an upstream provider.   This setup has been running without
> > issue for a year and a half.   I've done no updates to the Mikrotik
> > software
> > in probably 6 months.
> >
> > Only fix I've been able to get to work is to have the customers hard set
> > the
> > DNS to the correct servers on their machine's connection.
> > Reprogramming/rebooting the routers doesn't fix it---anyway it's a
variety
> > of routers effected.  Not everyone seems to be effected (yet), but I'm
> > getting a steady stream of complaints.
> >
> > Anyone else seen this problem?  And what in the heck could cause it???
> >
> >
> > Norm
> >
> >
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> >
>
>


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