All,
Since there has been much discussion on the lists I did some checking
with the engineers.
Bottom line: it is VERY doubtful that we can add SNMP support to the
KN-50. There is simply not enough room in the chip to accommodate SNMP.
Kevin
**************************************
Kevin R. Knuth
Business Development Manager
North America
260-424-9690 Regional Office
614-822-5275 Corporate Office
kknuth@karlnet.com
www.karlnet.com
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-----Original Message-----
From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
[mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com] On Behalf Of Norm Young
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 10:23 AM
To: Karlnet Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Karlnet] KARLNET RESPONSE_ Reduction of
Karlnetfeaturesw/outnotification.
I'd really like to see NAT/DHCP on the KN-50. We've been insisting on
customer's purchase of a router and that we manage it. However, it's a
slow slide into the hell of managing the customer's internal
network/devices.
Norm
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Knuth" <kknuth@karlnet.com>
To: "'Karlnet Mailing List'" <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 9:19 AM
Subject: RE: [Karlnet] KARLNET RESPONSE_ Reduction of Karlnet
featuresw/outnotification.
> In regards to your request list:
>
> 1. Once the initial Karlnet load is on, you will be able to upgrade
> units on your own. So if you buy a KN-50 you will be able to do
> future upgrades. 2. Working hard on 802.11a. Our initial BETA test
> had issues- apparently revolving around the older Atheros chipset. We
> are waiting on two things: Newer radios and mini-PCI versions of the
> KN-100, as we cannot find many cardbus 802.11a radios with external
> antenna connectors. You could use a flashrom with the RADIOLAN
> radios. We do have support for that currently.
> 3. I am checking on the SNMP support. But it seems to me that there
is
> a technical reason it is not there (meaning- I do not think it can be
> added), But I am checking!
>
> Some of your other points are harder to answer. Such as:
>
> Why is work going into hotspots instead of 802.11a or upgradeable
> KN-50s. Actually, it is all going on. We have teams of engineers
> working on different projects. The Hotspot product (WARP) was driven
> by market demand. We essentially have teams divided on the following
> projects:
>
> Karlbridge- This is our standard product with our custom kernel for
> TurboCell and 802.11.
> Hardware- Development of our own hardware and systems platforms
> UBICOM- Development of features for UBICOM processors
>
> And 2 internal projects that I cannot mention at this time.
>
> I understand that from your viewpoint it often looks like Karlnet is
> not progressing very fast. What is actually more common is the
> following
> scenario: Karlnet is contracted by XYZ corp to add features to their
> EOM version of a UBICOM reference design. That work is added to our
> knowledge base, so even if we do not fully implement the features of
XYZ
> corp, we have the ability too. That is how NAT/DHCP came about. We
> have developed the feature for someone else, now we can put it in our
> own version too. The TurboCell module gets in the way a bit, so that
> requires some changes. You must always remember, we are working the
> processor pretty hard with TurboCell, so it is not easy to add other
> features.
>
> What are we working on now? Well, 802.11a support, new systems, and
> enhanced features for the KN-50 are our primary projects.
>
> Hope that this clarifies some of your concerns!
>
> Kevin
>
> **************************************
> Kevin R. Knuth
> Business Development Manager
> North America
> 260-424-9690 Regional Office
> 614-822-5275 Corporate Office
> kknuth@karlnet.com
> www.karlnet.com
> **************************************
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
> [mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com] On Behalf Of Paul Horak
> Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 8:42 PM
> To: Karlnet Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Karlnet] KARLNET RESPONSE_ Reduction of Karlnet features
> w/outnotification.
>
>
> Thanks for the update Kevin. I hope you don't mind me
> giving my 2 cents worth.
>
> I have tested a lot of different wireless solutions
> and I think Karlnet still has the best solution out
> there. However, I have also become a little frustrated
> with Karlnet over the last year or so and worry about
> the future. For someone with software so far ahead of
> the game a while ago, there doesn't seem to have been
> much progress and others are catching up fast. I
> wonder if development time at Karlnet is stretched to
> the limit? If so, I would happily get rid of DHCP,
> NAT, etc. and just buy a $50 router to do it (but
> please tell me first :-)).
>
> For me the key things I would like to see soon are:
>
> 1. Upgradable KN-50 type boards (having to send units
> back for an upgrade is a disaster waiting to happen in
> my view)
> 2. 802.11a support (so we can use 5GHz)
> 3. SNMP support in the KN-50s
>
> When I heard many months ago that 802.11a support was
> going into beta test in 'a week or two' I thought you
> would have a killer solution. The Turbocell software
> is very good and I have yet to see another outdoor
> wireless product more suitable for an ISP. I don't
> understand why devlopment time is going into Hotspot
> support and other features when basic problems like non-upgradeble
> KN-50s and lack of drivers for 802.11a still exist.
>
> If possible, I would love to hear what Karlnet
> consider priorities for future devlopment. I hope it
> is NOT NAT/DHCP support on the KN-50s....
>
> Cheers,
>
> Paul
>
> --- Kevin Knuth <kknuth@karlnet.com> wrote:
> >
> > All,
> >
> > I wanted to give you an update. I have been off
> > work this week, but I
> > still read email and was very concerned about the
> > thread I was seeing
> > here (yes, Karlnet DOES monitor this list and YES we
> > do listen to
> > customers). ;)
> >
> > Anyway- We are adding NAT/DHCP back into the Sx-4000
> > series licenses.
> > This is NOT a limited time offer.
> >
> > >From what I gather, the decision to pull the
> > Sx-4000 licenses was a
> > based in a belief by our engineers that with the
> > KN-50, there was no
> > real benefit for the sx-4000 licenses anymore.
> >
> > Clearly this is incorrect!
> >
> > So- bottom line- You wanted a Sx-4000 license with
> > NAT/DHCP- and you got
> > it!
> >
> > Kevin
> > **************************************
> > Kevin R. Knuth
> > Business Development Manager
> > North America
> > 260-424-9690 Regional Office
> > 614-822-5275 Corporate Office
> > kknuth@karlnet.com
> > www.karlnet.com
> > **************************************
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
> > [mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com] On Behalf Of Steve Deaton
> > Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 3:34 PM
> > To: 'Karlnet Mailing List'
> > Subject: [Karlnet] Reduction of Karlnet features
> > w/out notification.
> >
> >
> > Just FYI, not trying to start any flaming, but be
> > aware that karlnet is
> > working on removing features like NAT & DHCP from
> > the SR-4000 & possibly
> > others. We started flashing CPE's for our
> > contractors to have next week
> > & were met with an absence of NAT and DHCP as
> > options. This was a
> > change that was made last night without
> > notification, thus I am posting
> > here.
> >
> > Our standardized install entails contractors picking
> > up RG's or KN's
> > with NAT & DHCP so they always have a standard
> > installation & don't need
> > to understand IP addressing. This is important when
> > you have several
> > different subnets that they will be connecting to
> > (i.e. different towers
> > & channels). We then connect remotely on an
> > as-needed basis & change
> > settings if requested (i.e. client needs a public or
> > static IP), but by
> > default they're getting a NAT IP. We have found
> > this to be the best way
> > to simplify things for installers.
> >
> > I'd appreciate input on this concept as I know
> > Karlnet monitors this
> > thread. If many ISP's use the NAT & DHCP it may
> > help motivate them in
> > our favor. If not, it will help karlnet relieve
> > overhead by not
> > offering these features in the future. To confirm,
> > if you're using
> > bridging or routing as a normal setup, this won't
> > effect anything, so
> > don't stress. However, if you normally implement
> > NAT/DHCP it may not be
> > there anymore as of 7pm last night. You will still
> > pay the same for the
> > licenses, but received reduced features unless you
> > notify karlnet. We
> > found them to be interested in working with us to
> > meet our needs, so
> > this is more of a speed bump than a brick wall.
> > They have offered to
> > edit our web login, possibly all web logins, at license-it.com to
> > offer options for NAT/DHCP, so voice your approval or
> > disapproval so that they
> > know what their users like.
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Steve Deaton
> > IT Director
> > Texas Broadband, Inc.
> > (888)868.3835 ext 85 (office)
> > 979.289.0148 (office)
> > 979.289.5117 (fax)
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
> > [mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com] On Behalf Of Ben Polson
> > Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 2:38 PM
> > To: Karlnet Mailing List
> > Subject: RE: [Karlnet] Conversion of SNR values to
> > dB
> >
> > Thanks Phil. Sure, I'd love to see what this has
> > produced for you.
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
> > > [mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com]On Behalf Of
> > Phil
> > > Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 12:33 PM
> > > To: 'Karlnet Mailing List'
> > > Subject: RE: [Karlnet] Conversion of SNR values to
> > dB
> > >
> > >
> > > I'm not sure if it is correct but I've been
> > dividing by 2 and then
> > > subtracting 95. I can show some examples of my
> > S/N graphs that I
> > > generate for all of our customers and APs if
> > anyone wants to see them.
> >
> > > (not attached of course)
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Ben Polson [mailto:bsp@bandwave.net]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 11:33 AM
> > > To: Karlnet Mailing List
> > > Subject: [Karlnet] Conversion of SNR values to dB
> > >
> > > Does anyone know the algorithm to convert the
> > INTEGER values returned
> > > from the OIDs for signal and noise into dB values?
> > >
> > > A signal value of 86 and noise value of 10 aren't
> > as helpful as the dB
> >
> > > values. Thanks in advance.
> > >
> > > -Ben.
> > >
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